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# 257473 5-Oct-2019 10:46
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With all the splashback from Joe Biden's son Hunter, things are looking good for presidential candidate Senator Elizabeth Warren

Jacob Wohl’s Bogus Warren Accuser Exaggerated His Military Service Record

Kelvin Whelly claimed to be a Marine combat vet who took fire in Afghanistan. The Marines say that never happened.

By Daily Beast, Will Sommer

Blundering conservative operatives Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman attempted to smear another Trump foe with a press conference outside Burkman’s home on Thursday, this time alleging without any proof that Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is a “cougar” who hired a male escort.

The event had the trademarks of many of their previous, notoriously inept political stunts, including attempts to smear former Special Counsel Robert Mueller and 2020 presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg with fake sexual assault claims. Those earlier, obviously fake smear attempts had become Twitter punchlines, and made Wohl and Burkman into laughingstocks even among many of their allies on the right.

But this time, the accuser they were touting was a retired Marine.

Kelvin Whelly, a self-described Marine-turned-male-escort, stepped up to the podium alongside Wohl and Burkman. Without any proof, he claimed to have engaged in a series of increasingly ludicrous sex acts with Warren after meeting her on male escort site “Cowboys4Angels.”

Wohl and Burkman repeatedly leaned on Whelly’s military service as a “combat veteran” in Afghanistan as proof that his allegation was credible.

...Service records provided by the Marines Corps and reviewed by The Daily Beast confirm that Whelly was in the Marines from 2014 to 2016, but that he never deployed to Afghanistan or anywhere else.

...There are other reasons to question Whelly’s story. Garren James, the owner of male escort site Cowboys4Angels, told Rolling Stone on Thursday that Whelly had never even applied to work at the company.

“Everything that he’s saying doesn’t even make sense,” James later told The Daily Beast.

James added that Whelly’s claim to have messaged Warren on the site was ridiculous, because escorts and clients can’t communicate through Cowboys4Angels.

“He’s really not the type of guy that we would hire, even if he applied,” James said. “For him to use our agency to try to get clout is just absolutely ridiculous.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jacob-wohls-bogus-warren-accuser-exaggerated-his-military-service-record

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  # 2329979 5-Oct-2019 11:31
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Why would it matter even if it was true? I couldn't care less about anybody's sex life or anything else as long as no-one is underage or being coerced. This kind of sewer stuff doesn't deserve a response.

 

 





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  # 2329980 5-Oct-2019 11:34
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What do you mean splashback? There's no evidence that either of the Biden's have done anything..


 
 
 
 




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  # 2330001 5-Oct-2019 12:59
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I believe that Trump's children have done far worse than Joe Biden's child, Hunter.

I'm not going to go into Hunter's personal life, as he's not running for any office. Here's an article that seem reputable, from the New Yorker

I'm also not faulting Hunter over the Ukraine. Joe Biden's name probably opened the door for Hunter's job, but otherwise everything else seems OK.

Joe Biden wanted a stricter Ukrainian prosecutor, contrary to what Republican would have you believe.

However there is at least one "iffy" deal with China. Trump portrayal is an wild exaggeration, bordering on an outright lie.

The lie: Trump suggested China showered $1.5 billion on Hunter Biden in order to influence his father and win favorable trade deals with the United States.

The likely truth: just like Trump's kids, Hunter has been given some sweetheart CHinese jobs and deals, amounting to at least $100,000/year.

Again Trump is horrible. Trump's children are horrible. Hunter is not a saint either.

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  # 2330007 5-Oct-2019 13:17
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With rumours, lies and innuendos like these floating the interweb it's not surprising that phrases like drain the swamp appeals to some in the US electorate. It must seem like every other politician and their offspring have their snouts in the trough to a lesser or greater extent.

 

And I'm not suggesting the Bidens are anything like the Trumps before anybody reaches for the keyboard.

 

 


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  # 2330009 5-Oct-2019 13:22
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Do these doubts about Hunter mean that Trump's tactic is working?

 

 





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  # 2331111 5-Oct-2019 18:06
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Elizabeth Warren stops "lock him up" chant directed at pro-Trump protester

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Massachusetts senator and Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren urged her supporters to stop a "lock him up" chant directed at a pro-Trump protester who interrupted her rally in Carson City, Nevada, Wednesday.

CBSN political contributor and Washington Post reporter Sean Sullivan joined CBSN to discuss what the event tells us about how Democratic voters see the impeachment case against President Trump.




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  # 2331113 5-Oct-2019 18:12
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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg slams Elizabeth Warren in leaked audio

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CBSN to discuss the war of words between Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Senator Elizabeth Warren. The 2020 presidential candidate favors breaking up big tech companies like Facebook.


 
 
 
 


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  # 2331219 6-Oct-2019 09:13
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Rikkitic:

 

Do these doubts about Hunter mean that Trump's tactic is working?

 

 

Yes.  Biden hasn't been strong enough retaliating.  Trump's a liar and a hypocrite,  should target the awful Trump family.

 

Clinton's "high road" didn't work, it won't for Biden either.

 

Some of the ~50 million or so members of the Trump cult need to be turned, all they see is what they're fed on Fox News and facebook.

 

Bernie also needs to bow out gracefully, his health scare has given him an opportunity to bow out without the reaction last time, where Russian bot farms used his defeat to drive a wedge and suppress votes that should have been against Trump.




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  # 2331533 6-Oct-2019 18:52
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Biden releases new campaign ad calling Trump "unhinged"

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Former Vice President Joe Biden is firing back at President Trump's attacks on him and his son. CBS News campaign reporter Bo Erickson joins CBSN from Los Angeles to discuss.




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  # 2331752 7-Oct-2019 10:35
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Uncertainty takes over the lead in the Democratic presidential race

Washington post By Michael Scherer and Matt Viser

The top fundraiser in the Democratic presidential field was hospitalized with a heart attack, the longtime polling leader and his son sit at the center of an impeachment inquiry, and the one candidate with clear momentum faces persistent doubts among some party leaders that she is too liberal to win the general election.

With breathtaking speed, the events of the past two weeks have created huge uncertainty for the candidates who have dominated the Democratic nomination race, shaking a party desperate to defeat President Trump next year and deeply fearful of any misstep that risks reelecting a president many Democrats see as dangerously unfit for office.

Concerns have risen in recent days that the potential Democratic slate has been weakened by events largely out of the candidates’ control. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) vowed a speedy return to the campaign trail after leaving the hospital Friday, but it was unclear whether the 78-year-old would be able to replicate his previously frenetic travel schedule. Former vice president Joe Biden, who has spent most of the race as the leader in the polls, has faced daily attacks from Trump over largely unfounded allegations about his son Hunter’s foreign business dealings, highlighting a potential vulnerability for the candidate many saw as the best hope for beating Trump.

“This is crazier than most. It’s the normal twists and turns — on steroids,” said former senator Barbara Boxer (Calif.). “Anything can happen. Anything can happen.”

Interviews with more than two dozen Democratic leaders, top strategists and former elected officials revealed that most are still holding out judgment about how — or how much — the events will shift the race.

But they point to several worrying factors, including questions about whether Biden is equipped to mount an effective defense against Trump’s attacks and whether the surging Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) would alienate moderate voters and donors if she were the nominee. Some fear that Sanders’s health problems put a spotlight on the advanced age of the top contenders, all of whom are in their 70s. Others expressed skepticism that any Democrat would be able to compete against Trump’s unmatched ability to shift the public’s focus.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/uncertainty-takes-over-the-lead-in-the-democratic-presidential-race/2019/10/05/88b3cdba-e6e6-11e9-a331-2df12d56a80b_story.html



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  # 2337434 15-Oct-2019 14:25
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Warren Dares Facebook With Intentionally False Political Ad


Senator Elizabeth Warren at an event in South Carolina on Wednesday. She bought a political ad on Facebook that purposefully includes false claims, escalating her feud with the world’s biggest social network.

New York Times, By Cecilia Kang and Thomas Kaplan

Elizabeth Warren is playing a game of dare with Facebook.

The Democratic presidential candidate bought a political ad on the social network this past week that purposefully includes false claims about Facebook’s chief executive, Mark Zuckerberg, and President Trump to goad the social network to remove misinformation in political ads ahead of the 2020 presidential election.

The ad, placed widely on Facebook beginning on Thursday, starts with Ms. Warren announcing “Breaking news.” The ad then goes on to say that Facebook and Mr. Zuckerberg are backing the re-election of Trump. Neither Mr. Zuckerberg nor the Silicon Valley company has announced their support of a candidate.

“You’re probably shocked, and you might be thinking, ‘how could this possibly be true?’ Well, it’s not,” Ms. Warren said in the ad.

In a series of tweets on Saturday, Ms. Warren, a senator from Massachusetts, said she had deliberately made an ad with lies because Facebook had previously allowed politicians to place ads with false claims. “We decided to see just how far it goes,” Ms. Warren wrote, calling Facebook a “disinformation-for-profit machine” and adding that Mr. Zuckerberg should be held accountable.

Ms. Warren’s actions follow a brouhaha over Facebook and political ads in recent weeks. Mr. Trump’s campaign recently bought ads across social media that accused another Democratic presidential candidate, Joseph R. Biden Jr., of corruption in Ukraine. That ad, viewed more than five million times on Facebook, falsely said that Mr. Biden offered $1 billion to Ukrainian officials to remove a prosecutor who was overseeing an investigation of a company associated with Mr. Biden’s son Hunter Biden.

This past week, the Biden campaign demanded that Facebook, Twitter and YouTube take down the ad. Facebook refused, telling the Biden campaign that it would keep the Trump ad up because of its belief that statements by politicians add to important discourse and are newsworthy, even if they are false. Twitter and YouTube have also kept the ad online.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/technology/elizabeth-warren-facebook-ad.html

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