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  #2947276 28-Jul-2022 11:19
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Rikkitic:

 

Take a breath. You are better than this.

 

 

The truth hurts!

 

 




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  #2947278 28-Jul-2022 11:21
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Rikkitic:

 

Take a breath. You are better than this.

 

 

The truth hurts!

 

 

 

 

Your considered comments are often reasonable and well-informed. Your petty sniping just gets tiresome. 

 

 





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  #2947293 28-Jul-2022 11:27
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Rikkitic:

 

Your considered comments are often reasonable and well-informed. Your petty sniping just gets tiresome. 

 

 

You might consider taking a look in the mirror in that regard. 

 

Just because the criticism is short and sharp, doesn't make it untrue, unconsidered, or petty. 

 

Do you have some evidence to the contrary? Something to disprove my comments? 

 

 




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  #2947312 28-Jul-2022 11:53
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"This Government take responsibility? Nope." 

 

"Quick to take credit though."

 

 

 

What does that even mean? What, specifically, are you referring to? A single incident, or everything the government has ever done? Without any context this is just bad-tempered hot air from someone who just doesn't like the government. Petty sniping. It is the kind of ploy that Donald Trump and his enablers have used to undermine the American political system. If you have criticisms, make them, but leave the empty sound bites out of it. 

 

 





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  #2947315 28-Jul-2022 11:59
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Rikkitic:

 

"This Government take responsibility? Nope." 

 

"Quick to take credit though."

 

 

 

What does that even mean? What, specifically, are you referring to? A single incident, or everything the government has ever done? Without any context this is just bad-tempered hot air from someone who just doesn't like the government. Petty sniping. It is the kind of ploy that Donald Trump and his enablers have used to undermine the American political system. If you have criticisms, make them, but leave the empty sound bites out of it. 

 

 

 

 

I made my criticisms, they are very easy to understand. If you are struggling, that's on you.  It's neither petty nor sniping, this is just your go-to description for anything you don't have an arguable defense to go with the knee-jerk defense of Labour.

 

If you want to make comparisons to Trump, then be prepared to have Labours overpromise and underdeliver compared too.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2947321 28-Jul-2022 12:12
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"This Government take responsibility? Nope." 

 

"Quick to take credit though."

 

What does that even mean? What, specifically, are you referring to? A single incident, or everything the government has ever done? Without any context this is just bad-tempered hot air from someone who just doesn't like the government. Petty sniping. It is the kind of ploy that Donald Trump and his enablers have used to undermine the American political system. If you have criticisms, make them, but leave the empty sound bites out of it. 

 

 

You want other people to "keep soundbites out of it" but want to reflexively name-drop Trump when people comment on the government's penchant for blaming the party that hasn't been in power for close to five years now for them not being able to advance progress in flagship policies on housing, education and so on?

 

Just wanting to make sure I'm crystal on this. 


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  #2947323 28-Jul-2022 12:12
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Rikkitic:

 

"This Government take responsibility? Nope." 

 

"Quick to take credit though."

 

 

 

What does that even mean? What, specifically, are you referring to? A single incident, or everything the government has ever done? Without any context this is just bad-tempered hot air from someone who just doesn't like the government. Petty sniping. It is the kind of ploy that Donald Trump and his enablers have used to undermine the American political system. If you have criticisms, make them, but leave the empty sound bites out of it. 

 

 

 

 

Here's one instance for a start. One of the local Labour MP's claiming credit for the Waikato Expressway when in fact it was a project initiated by the previous National government.





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How long can he continue to blame the previous government? When will they front up and take some responsibility? They've had coming up 5 years to have done things. If they wish to pass the blame like this then they need to acknowledge the only reason they can use this excuse is because they have done nothing

 

 

I fully expect Labour to blame National all the way to the end of their term in October 2023.





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  #2947328 28-Jul-2022 12:24
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I fully expect Labour to blame National all the way to the end of their term in October 2023.

 

 

I expect it to go on much longer than that.

 

 


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  #2947329 28-Jul-2022 12:26
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JPNZ:

 

I fully expect Labour to blame National all the way to the end of their term in October 2023.

 

 

I expect it to go on much longer than that.

 

 

 

 

Can't do much blaming from the opposition benches ;-) 





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  #2947333 28-Jul-2022 12:35
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GV27:

 

You want other people to "keep soundbites out of it" but want to reflexively name-drop Trump when people comment on the government's penchant for blaming the party that hasn't been in power for close to five years now for them not being able to advance progress in flagship policies on housing, education and so on?

 

Just wanting to make sure I'm crystal on this. 

 

 

Trump is a good example for how not to behave. Nothing wrong with bringing him into the discussion. I wasn't responding to "when people comment on the government's penchant for blaming the party that hasn't been in power for close to five years now for them not being able to advance progress in flagship policies on housing, education and so on?" I was responding to "nope" and "quick to take credit". 

 

 





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  #2947383 28-Jul-2022 12:42
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Here's one instance for a start. One of the local Labour MP's claiming credit for the Waikato Expressway when in fact it was a project initiated by the previous National government.

 

 

I don't doubt you but who was that? You don't include a reference.

 

 





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  #2947384 28-Jul-2022 12:43
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Trump is a good example for how not to behave. Nothing wrong with bringing him into the discussion. I wasn't responding to "when people comment on the government's penchant for blaming the party that hasn't been in power for close to five years now for them not being able to advance progress in flagship policies on housing, education and so on?" I was responding to "nope" and "quick to take credit". 

 

 

I disagree, bringing Trump into a discussion like this one is a lazy attempt at point scoring. If you are going to compare, you need to be prepared to draw similar comparisons in reverse. For example promising a wall vs 100K houses. To be fair though, more wall got built than houses. 

 

 


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  #2947386 28-Jul-2022 12:57
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Technofreak. The activity wasn't banned at all. We were all told to stay at home but were allowed to exercise within a small radius of our homes. He was using his motor vehicle to travel to an area away from his home to get to an exercise area and that was the issue and that was what he was sprung for. He was "bending" the rules.

Recreational off-road mountain biking I believe it was basically banned at the time similar to surfing and other relatively high risk recreation activities with potential for use of rescue and medical resources at that time.

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  #2947389 28-Jul-2022 13:18
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networkn: To be fair though, more wall got built than houses. 

 

 

 

 

There you go again. To be fair, I think more houses than wall are currently being built.

 

 





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