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#3268603 6-Aug-2024 12:46

Well I was right, Trump's team out with an advert called the "Kamala Krash"

Its mostly unfactual Rhetoric, but he will use whatever he can. So, can Biden help cool the market and force an "interest rate" cut? (without triggering major rise in Inflation).

What I do not understand with people who back Trump for his ability to control the market etc is why? He inherited $400M and went bankrupt, was it 7 times? Hes been dont for half a billion $ in consumer Fraud. are Americans truly DUMB enough to believe his words over substance, just because he can say "your fired"?

Clearly Kamala just needs to point to this not being a crash but a landing for record growth and record unemployment, its impossible to go at 30% forever in any stock market etc.

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#3268636 6-Aug-2024 14:43

Markets that always go up just crash bigger.
Its how China wasted huge resources on empty concrete boxes in the sky that were never intended to be occupied. They always went up 20% a year in value until they did not.
Australia did well on the need for Iron Ore, and Coal this created :-)

Trump is like a 'cargo cult'.

Trump won't be around when any crash from his pumping up Markets and Bitcoin comes due.
The top 1% as usual will have protected themselves.

Whole thing is even immune to proven failures of past Trump administration.
Where was the affordable Healthcare that was easy ?
The historic upgrade of failing infrastructure across the country ?
How much unscaleable 100% secure wall was built ?
The un-necessarily large toll of the pandemic.
Trump pandemic relief that wasted the extra $2Trillion printed.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/covid-relief-scam-fraud-money-billions-1234784448/

Jan6th and everything around that.

So much winning.

'Cargo Cults' are not just things of primitive tribes.
Like someone saying its easy an Air Hockey Table in a Vacuum Tube.
I can beat cost of surface rail even airlines with 100's Km of Large Vacuum Tubes.
Rinse and repeat with point to point starships.

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#3268706 6-Aug-2024 16:18

Technically Robert F "I've got a brain worm" Kennedy Jr is still a presidential candidate, as he has not withdrawn and has run a Super Bowl commercial, received campaign funds and is involved in several states litigation about his candidacy.

In the video below, Rosanne "Your drunk old racist aunt" Barr looks at RFK Jr like "OK, before he can reach for a dinner knife, I'm going to back away slowly while smiling and nodding"

The Hill: RFK Jr. posed with bloody bear carcass in photograph

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. posed with a bloody bear carcass in a 2014 photo that resurfaced Monday after he claimed he was the person who dumped a dead bear in New York City’s Central Park a decade ago.

The photo was featured in The New Yorker’s profile of Kennedy, published Monday, and shows the environmental lawyer, then 60, sitting in a trunk with his hand in the mouth of a dead cub’s bloody mouth.
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#3268820 6-Aug-2024 17:45

ezbee: 'Cargo Cults' are not just things of primitive tribes.

and it turns out those are not so primitive and not so simplistic.

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#3268826 6-Aug-2024 18:57

A couple of mid-week election-related images:

The red arrow is pointing to James, who was speaking at the time. The bloke in the blue shirt in this clip kept on pointing the "You're Fired!" sign towards James as he was speaking, with a highly p'd-off look on his face 😀

Also (re the debates):

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#3268847 6-Aug-2024 20:38

So tired of bad human beings like Trump and Musk not getting a reality check. Musk with his hair implants has so many fooled that hes not a bad guy, but when he gets way off the spectrum of his mental health he does things like break his own X policy and his so called fears ai could be weaponised, yet when he does just that, he waits until somebody like Newsom pull his head in, he then labels it parody. But we all know his itent was defamation not humou, so Im surprised in the US of all places Harris cant sue Musk.

Perhaps if she wasnt so normal unlike these clowns she would check him, but I suspect she has a lot up her sleeve that giving this attention seeker a response would tilt toward derailing eyes on the prize. His 10000x X algorithm goes against everything he talks about. and he is miffed why so many people hate him on the platform.

Trump has to get the ankle bracelet and the 3 hour interview by probation officer every time he wants to leave his home state, like every other person on probation. That will put him on tilt.

Then the insurrection Georgia case, having to be present while Jack Smith makes it more like a trial by putting witnesses up, whether during presidential time or not which Chutkan can say none of it was. all of this trial like evidential hearing will be reported on in real time, so people will hear exactly what Trump did (and didnt) do. This could send him into breaking his gag order which could have the NY Judge force him to hom detention for an extended period.

By that point he will have blown his top and his chances.

Thats ignoring if the investigative journalists prove the $10M in US cash destination. Its ignoring the "N" word to describe an "apprentice" contestant.

I have a feeling bad things will just keep coming and Harris will prosecute it like an attorney general.

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#3268853 6-Aug-2024 20:59

Elon Mush tried to brush off critics by saying "parody is legal." This goes beyond parody, and would easily fool some people.

Kamala Harris Deepfake Video | Elon Musk Faces Criticism Over Deepfake Kamala Harris Video

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#3268914 6-Aug-2024 22:55

Saw a post today about Elon Musk - "the immigrant that should be deported"

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#3268932 7-Aug-2024 03:38

Its not Shapiro, so it is Walz.

Shapiro would have delivered Penn which the Dems MUST win.

Walz does remove some points over Shapiro and means Kelly can keep on with the Senate.

BUT, they are behind by +4 to Trump in Penn, so I hope she has a plan with Shapiro though.

Walz will appeal to moderates on both sides, from the army to stateguard for 25 years. School teacher. Hunter, so a responsible gun owner (thats a big one).

None would hurt, but Walz may not have same impact as Shapiro who not so long ago was being seen as the President going forward.

Im ok with it, but they need Penn so she better have a big plan there.

See my comments re Justice Thoms new findings in the Trump legal forum.

Fox is even saying good things about Harris, if he loses fox, hes gone.

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#3268934 7-Aug-2024 04:09

another poll in for the general +3 Harris. I think the 4 days lag is about 4 points short of where she is really at right now in the general, my gut says +7 avg.

and on favorability it just keeps closing itself down from +5.9 unfavorable yesterday to + 5.5 today.

Walz now confirmed.

There is one singular favorability poll from few days ago, it was Walz. Not quite Shapiro level favorability, perhaps need to get to know him. It was circa +4 but both indices were only in the teens. But the point being, it suggested then who she had in mind.

freitasm:

Saw a post today about Elon Musk - "the immigrant that should be deported"

I concur, I been saying it for days. Musk dodges draft, is an adult by the time he is a US citizen, he is pushing his luck with a lot of stuff that is borderline election interference.

Arnie is saying after California he would loved to have run for president, but he also respects why he is not eligible and rarely comments in it. Musk needs to check himself, nothing good will come of these dodgy dealings.

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#3268935 7-Aug-2024 04:27

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#3268960 7-Aug-2024 07:34

At 60, he's young enough to be Trump's son.

When Trump was born the US ends hostilities in World War II

When Tim Waltz was born The Beatles vault to the #1 spot on the U.S. singles charts for the first time, with "I Want to Hold Your Hand", starting the British Invasion in America.

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#3268967 7-Aug-2024 08:45

kingdragonfly: At 60, he's young enough to be Trump's son.

When Trump was born the US ends hostilities in World War II

When Tim Waltz was born The Beatles vault to the #1 spot on the U.S. singles charts for the first time, with "I Want to Hold Your Hand", starting the British Invasion in America.

But most importantly, he's an old white male which will make him "comfortable" to a lot of on the fence conservatives.

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#3268968 7-Aug-2024 08:45

A good middle of the road choice. He looks like your favorite uncle.

Shapiro looks like he's going to sell you insurance. Kelly looks like he's the local dentist.

Perceptions are everything at this level.

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#3268969 7-Aug-2024 08:46

sir1963:

kingdragonfly: At 60, he's young enough to be Trump's son.

When Trump was born the US ends hostilities in World War II

When Tim Waltz was born The Beatles vault to the #1 spot on the U.S. singles charts for the first time, with "I Want to Hold Your Hand", starting the British Invasion in America.

But most importantly, he's an old white male which will make him "comfortable" to a lot of on the fence conservatives.

But also importantly not too old.

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