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  #1603227 2-Aug-2016 21:12
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dejadeadnz:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2016/08/01/in-one-sense-trump-has-sacrificed-everything/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na

 

 

 

Donald Trump's hitherto unknown sacrifice has been found!

 

 

 

 

 



 

His only sacrifice is that he can't legally date his Daughter

 

http://fusion.net/story/176716/heres-the-creepy-video-of-donald-trump-saying-hed-date-his-own-daughter/

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  #1603236 2-Aug-2016 21:36
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For people who want some lols

 

This is perhaps the most delusional defense of Trump's credentials to be the president that I've read so far: http://townhall.com/columnists/bryancrabtree/2016/07/30/hillarys-resume-better-than-trumps--weve-lost-our-mind-n2199865

 

 

 

Townhall.com is an amazing website, for those who want to laugh at delusional conservatives. On a daily basis, it publishes a collection of some of the most delusional thinking one can ever find. I will concede that the occasional libertarian on there often make quite a lot of sense. The stuff from the social conservatives are just cackle-worthy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  #1603347 3-Aug-2016 09:31
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From that article...

 

Regardless of the size of your business, you have to possess sound judgment and discipline in order to have lasting success.

 

A great example of the Big Lie. Trump has NOT had "lasting success". His corporation has been bankrupt 4 times. He has been shrewd enough to keep his personal finances largely separate, so that his creditors take the fall rather than him personally.

 

“I’ve cut debt — by the way, this isn’t me personally, it’s a company,” Trump said. “Basically I’ve used the laws of the country to my advantage and to other people’s advantage just as Leon Black has, Carl Icahn, Henry Kravis has, just as many, many others on top of the business world have.”

 

Essentially, he's an amoral risk-taker. When things go well, he takes the cash and the credit. When things go badly, it lands on someone else. He's the kind of person that caused the Global Economic Crisis.

 

 

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  #1603390 3-Aug-2016 10:28
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I seem to recall from reading the Washington Post that his companies have gone bankrupt 6 times. Regardless of which number being the correct one, it still tells you all there is to know about him. And Warren Buffet has challenged the idiot to release his tax returns: http://www.salon.com/2016/08/02/warren_buffett_places_a_billionaires_bet_donald_trump_release_your_tax_returns_and_ill_release_mine/ 

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  #1603652 3-Aug-2016 15:22
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/trump-university-case.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share

Trump University suit can go ahead, so ruled the "Mexican" judge. Get the insults ready, Donald. Go low.

And Meg Whitman just endorsed Clinton. Are we finally seeing the Trump train wreck reach its logical, err, destination?

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  #1603656 3-Aug-2016 15:34
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dejadeadnz: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/trump-university-case.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share

Trump University suit can go ahead, so ruled the "Mexican" judge. Get the insults ready, Donald. Go low.

And Meg Whitman just endorsed Clinton. Are we finally seeing the Trump train wreck reach its logical, err, destination?


Having only just returned from a time in Washington DC I would say the train wreck had only just begun. There will be many more tumbles, explosions, sparks and steam clouds before someone stands on the steps of the Capitol on 20 January to take the oath of office.
When I think of the high drama and farce that surrounded the 2000 election and the disputed ballots in Florida, that will appear like a sideshow when compared to the next 5 months.




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  #1603662 3-Aug-2016 15:45
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I'm glad I'm not a US voter. 

 

Trump is ethically repugnant.  I have seen analysis which if he put the money he inherited from his father in the bank and left it there, he would have made more than he has as a developer.

 

 

 

Clinton come across as extremely fake. Ironic that feminists are all over the Hillary bandwagon when she is only a contender because of her marriage to a male former president.

 

 




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  #1603680 3-Aug-2016 16:04
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MikeAqua:

 

Clinton come across as extremely fake. Ironic that feminists are all over the Hillary bandwagon when she is only a contender because of her marriage to a male former president.

 

 

SO the choice is between Fake vs dumb huh ...

 

I have a feeling Hillary has a bit more substance than what you suggest. Sure, having Bill helps, but you don't get to be the Democrat nominee without some substance. Too bad the nomination was rigged to get her in vs Sanders.

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  #1603689 3-Aug-2016 16:13
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joker97:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Clinton come across as extremely fake. Ironic that feminists are all over the Hillary bandwagon when she is only a contender because of her marriage to a male former president.

 

 

SO the choice is between Fake vs dumb huh ...

 

I have a feeling Hillary has a bit more substance than what you suggest. Sure, having Bill helps, but you don't get to be the Democrat nominee without some substance. Too bad the nomination was rigged to get her in vs Sanders.

 

 

I never said Hillary was dumb. I believe she is very smart.  But clever isn't what a candidate needs to win elections (George W Bush is a case in point).

 

Oratory and likeability (i.e. star power) win elections. 

 

She has neither.  By her own words she isn't a natural politician.  I think she struggles with public appearances and this is why she seems in-genuine.  She has to put on a smiling and waving public persona that isn't her natural behaviour.

 

That's why Presidents Obama and Clinton are all over the campaign trial with her.  They bring the star power.  Even the VEEP out-spoke her at the democrat convention.




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  #1603697 3-Aug-2016 16:19
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MikeAqua:

 

joker97:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Clinton come across as extremely fake. Ironic that feminists are all over the Hillary bandwagon when she is only a contender because of her marriage to a male former president.

 

 

SO the choice is between Fake vs dumb huh ...

 

I have a feeling Hillary has a bit more substance than what you suggest. Sure, having Bill helps, but you don't get to be the Democrat nominee without some substance. Too bad the nomination was rigged to get her in vs Sanders.

 

 

I never said Hillary was dumb. I believe she is very smart.  But clever isn't what a candidate needs to win elections (George W Bush is a case in point).

 

Oratory and likeability (i.e. star power) win elections. 

 

She has neither.  By her own words she isn't a natural politician.  I think she struggles with public appearances and this is why she seems in-genuine.  She has to put on a smiling and waving public persona that isn't her natural behaviour.

 

That's why Presidents Obama and Clinton are all over the campaign trial with her.  They bring the star power.  Even the VEEP out-spoke her at the democrat convention.

 

 

You said Hillary was fake, I am saying the other is dumb. Trump's general knowledge is non existent I don't think, neither is his vocabulary or understanding of simple words like "sacrifice".

 

Totally agree that dumb is not a hindrance to being top of the pops in the US. Which is why he's got a good chance ... he'll have to shoot himself many times pretty bad to lose. Not impossible though ...

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  #1603705 3-Aug-2016 16:35
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Drumph really seems to be imploding. More and more important Republicans are backing away from him. The President of the United States has denounced him as unfit. Is it possible for him to be unnominated at this stage? What would be the mechanism for that? What would happen if if did get dumped?

 

 




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  #1603727 3-Aug-2016 17:03
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Rikkitic:

 

Drumph really seems to be imploding. More and more important Republicans are backing away from him. The President of the United States has denounced him as unfit. Is it possible for him to be unnominated at this stage? What would be the mechanism for that? What would happen if if did get dumped?

 

 

 

I don't know if a nomination can be withdrawn once officially notified. 

 

I'm sure Republican party logistics and financial  support can be withdrawn,but it would make them look silly.

 

The Republican party could also stand an independent candidate and campaign for the party faithful to vote for that candidate.

 

That would also look silly and split the vote guaranteeing Hillary the oval office.

 

Here is conspiracy theory.  Maybe the Republican party want Trump to lose. It would be a blow to the policies of the hard line conservative faction in the party. 




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  #1603741 3-Aug-2016 17:37
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MikeAqua:

 

<snip>   Here is conspiracy theory.  Maybe the Republican party want Trump to lose. It would be a blow to the policies of the hard line conservative faction in the party. 

 

 

Here is another conspiracy theory.  Maybe the Republican party want Trump to lose.

 

But for a different reason.

 

If Trump loses (as hopefully he will) the GOP will be out of power for (at least) one term.

 

If Trump wins, the result will be so appalling/embarrassing/destructive that the GOP will be voted out of office for much longer than one term. (always assuming that Trump hasn't pushed The Button and started the Nuclear Winter).

 

From the long-term Republican perspective, it may suit then better for Trump to lose.




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  #1603755 3-Aug-2016 17:43
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MikeAqua:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Drumph really seems to be imploding. More and more important Republicans are backing away from him. The President of the United States has denounced him as unfit. Is it possible for him to be unnominated at this stage? What would be the mechanism for that? What would happen if if did get dumped?

 

 

 

I don't know if a nomination can be withdrawn once officially notified. 

 

I'm sure Republican party logistics and financial  support can be withdrawn,but it would make them look silly.

 

The Republican party could also stand an independent candidate and campaign for the party faithful to vote for that candidate.

 

That would also look silly and split the vote guaranteeing Hillary the oval office.

 

Here is conspiracy theory.  Maybe the Republican party want Trump to lose. It would be a blow to the policies of the hard line conservative faction in the party. 

 

 

With the farce that it is, and its getting worse, a conspiracy theory fits well, no matter what it is. Maybe a deal has been done to get a round table of silent presidents running the show, and Trump is merely a figurehead. Or maybe that =s the only option left for the GOP. 

 

I dunno what to make of it, as the GOP surely must have decided how they can win the election, or did Trumo stuff that up?

 

He is about 9 point behind. he will change tactics he said a day or so ago, I ve been nice, Im not going to be nice anymore.

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  #1603779 3-Aug-2016 18:42
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If the GOP has a conspiracy to try to make Trump lose, that's when Trump is at his strongest! You can't conspire to ridicule Trump because the more he appears to implode the higher his popularity amongst his fans

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