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#3279639 7-Sep-2024 10:32

Rikkitic:

What do people think will happen if Harris wins by a narrow margin, or any margin? The courts will be overwhelmed with appeals and litigation. There will be riots around the country. Armed militias will pop up in places like Mar-a-Lago to defend their dear leader from arrest and other indignities.

no issues last time, no issues this time.

courts immediately threw out all the cases last time.

no riots last time either. there's something called law enforcement. they have big guns.

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#3279643 7-Sep-2024 10:44

quickymart:Politico "Johnson ‘100 percent’ convinced GOP will win both chambers of Congress, White House"

Confident, isn't he?

Republican Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is also confident that it's non-weird that he and his son monitor each other's porn. link

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#3279644 7-Sep-2024 11:11

Batman:

no riots last time either.

Counter point: January 6, 2021. Although I suspect this time around they will be much better prepared for the worst (should it happen) on January 6, 2025.

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#3279647 7-Sep-2024 11:40

Batman:

no issues last time, no issues this time.

courts immediately threw out all the cases last time.

no riots last time either. there's something called law enforcement. they have big guns.

Your optimism is touching.

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#3279648 7-Sep-2024 11:45

quickymart:

Trump is only in it for one person - Trump, ~~and maybe his family and cronies~~; everyone else = he couldn't care less.

Corrected that for you.

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#3279649 7-Sep-2024 11:48

quickymart:
Batman: no riots last time either.
Counter point: January 6, 2021. Although I suspect this time around they will be much better prepared for the worst (should it happen) on January 6, 2025.

Trump was able to influence government agency response or non-response to the event. That option is off the menu for a Trump loss in 2024.

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#3279650 7-Sep-2024 11:57

Nothing stopping him summoning his group of thugs again via Truth Social (or maybe even Twitter) but I have a feeling that:

(a) as above, law enforcement should be better prepared this time around, and

(b) I also think (hope?) that a lot of the clowns who were involved with January 6, 2021 took note of how Trump summoned them to do his legwork, then basically just walked away and washed his hands of them when they didn't achieve the goal he wanted (ie, to overthrow the government). He never paid for anyone's lawyer, nor did he give any of them pardons. Sure, he's promised them all pardons if he gets in again, but I would wager that's probably yet another lie.

Maybe I'm the one being a bit too optimistic? 😕

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#3279663 7-Sep-2024 12:17

@Batman:

Rikkitic:

What do people think will happen if Harris wins by a narrow margin, or any margin? The courts will be overwhelmed with appeals and litigation. There will be riots around the country. Armed militias will pop up in places like Mar-a-Lago to defend their dear leader from arrest and other indignities.

no issues last time, no issues this time.

courts immediately threw out all the cases last time.

no riots last time either. there's something called law enforcement. they have big guns.

What parallel universe are you living in?

Are you denying 6 Jan 2021 happened?

You don't consider 6 Jan 2021 a riot?

You don't think 6 Jan 2021 was a coup attempt?

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#3279681 7-Sep-2024 14:27

Rikkitic:

Her integrity just keeps on shining through! If only there were more conservatives like this.

I guess there are. Many people may be too young to fully appreciate what Dick Cheney has just done, or even to know who he is, but him deciding publicly to vote for Harris is equivalent to Biden voting for Trump. It is a complete rejection of everything he has ever stood for. Cheney is the ultra-conservative, without any of the saving graces of his daughter. He was the face and brain of the worst aspects of the Bush administration. Progressives denounced him as the personification of evil, a bit like Trump, actually. He was the conservative's Conservative. For him to support a democrat is really a very big deal. I think it reveals major cracks in the Republican party beyond the hard core of Trump acolytes, which is not enough to get him elected.

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#3279749 7-Sep-2024 18:32

The NY Times - Dick Cheney Says He Will Vote for Kamala Harris

06 Sep 2024

Former Vice President Dick Cheney, one of the most influential and hawkish conservatives in the modern Republican Party and a figure reviled by the left, said Friday he would be voting for Vice President Kamala Harris because he regards former President Donald J. Trump as a grave danger to the country.

“In our nation’s 248 year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump,” Mr. Cheney, 83, said in a statement.

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#3279754 7-Sep-2024 18:57

This is gotta hurt Trump:

James Murdoch, Mark Cuban and dozens of other business leaders endorse Kamala Harris for president

Dick Cheney says he’s voting for Harris in November and Trump ‘can never be trusted with power again’

Oh Dear the Orange Bouffant Rats are fleeing the sinking MAGA Ship.

They want to bring back the Regan Republic.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#3279755 7-Sep-2024 19:02

The Washington Post: JD Vance calls reality of school shootings a bleak ‘fact of life’

Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance on Thursday called school shootings a “fact of life” that he dislikes, saying in the wake of the Apalachee High School killings in Georgia that stricter gun laws are not the answer and that schools must beef up security.

“I don’t like to admit this. I don’t like that this is a fact of life,” Vance said at a rally in Phoenix where he offered prayers for the victims. “But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets and we have got to bolster security at our schools.”

His comments echoed what other Republicans have argued: that U.S. gun violence results primarily from mental health problems and not insufficient gun legislation.

“I don’t want my kids to go to school in a place where they feel like you’ve got to have additional security, but that is increasingly the reality that we live in,” Vance said.

He added that shootings happen in states regardless of the strength of their gun laws and that “to take law-abiding American citizens’ guns away from them” would not solve the problem.

Two students and two teachers were killed with an AR-15-style rifle Wednesday when a shooter opened fire at Apalachee High School in Winder, Ga. At least nine others were injured. It was the 416th school shooting [in the US] since the Columbine massacre in 1999, according to a Washington Post analysis.
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#3279777 7-Sep-2024 21:01

kingdragonfly: The Washington Post: JD Vance calls reality of school shootings a bleak ‘fact of life’

Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance on Thursday called school shootings a “fact of life” that he dislikes, saying in the wake of the Apalachee High School killings in Georgia that stricter gun laws are not the answer and that schools must beef up security.

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#3279783 7-Sep-2024 21:14

kingdragonfly: His comments echoed what other Republicans have argued: that U.S. gun violence results primarily from mental health problems and not insufficient gun legislation.

So the Republicans' position is that Americans are more nuts than any other country?

(Since other countries don't have this problem).

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#3279809 7-Sep-2024 22:17

My counter point to that oft-recycled Republican argument for doing absolutely nothing about guns: if "people with mental health problems" are the reasons behind the voluminous shootings, why would you make guns so readily available to "people with mental health problems"??? 😠

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