Crimea, Ukraine, what other lost USSR countries are of value? 

Geektastic: Is anyone surprised?

Putin is a wolf in a world largely composed of sheep. He's going to take what he wants and the West will bleat and wring their hands but probably do nothing.

He has been leader for far far too long, and all countries should limit the amount of time leaders should retain power for. At some point he was going to go septic. Seems having power, and retain that power for a long period does something really bad to humans. 

mattwnz:

 

He has been leader for far far too long, and all countries should limit the amount of time leaders should retain power for. At some point he was going to go septic. Seems having power, and retain that power for a long period does something really bad to humans. 

 

Its an autocratic nation. He gets "voted" in, so your good suggestion wont happen. Other countries cannot tell that country how to run themselves, but they have an opportunity to push for change, but that will not happen. Russia hasn't invaded, Putin has, so the World can allow that or not. I expect they will allow it

those who still don't understand that you can't trust some people, recall a few days ago Russia was telling the world they were carrying out peace keeping activity.

if people still have belief in some people, just don't believe some people

If you think Russia was sending out peace keeping forces to do peace keeping tasks, you were sorely mistaken. Putin is trying to repeat history. It's absolutely abhorrent.

tdgeek:

Crimea, Ukraine, what other lost USSR countries are of value? 

I wonder if some vital undersea internet cables somehow mysteriously get damaged in response to sanctions ? 

Well I better fill up the sharetank, petrol prices are going to rise for sure.

Any other economic shock could NZ experiance from this?

This is not going to end well for anybody. 😪

.. The Baltic states have no natural resources and can only be used as buffer from Nato. ...

The Baltic states are already in NATO.

tdgeek:

gzt: Explosions in Kiev during security council meeting. I hope some way can be found to stop this action and resume negotiations. This is very sad. It has potential to change the world in many ways that we cannot imagine at this time.

Yep, Russia, China, US and the West at odds.

gzt:

tdgeek:

 

 

 

Yep, Russia, China, US and the West at odds.

I have heard only China's first statement at the security council prior to the events. It was a short statement and supported continued resolution efforts. This does not seem to be 'at odds'.

What they say, and what they mean/want are quite possible entirely different.

MikeB4: Russia isn't really doing much different to what the US, UK etc have done over recent decades. This is a further example of the stupidity of world leaders.

MikeB4: The Ukraine president has declared Marshall law, I don't recall Great Britain, US, Australia, Aotearoa declaring Marshall law in WW1, WW2. I don't believe that the Ukraine regime is what they market themselves as.

A good twitter account to follow. It reposts & translates videos/photos from locals.

https://mobile.twitter.com/loogunda?t=IVZtvj9EM2MM5XEcysUjWg&s=09 

NYT reporting heavy fighting around Kharkiv (1.5 Million) along with some spectacular footage of Russian cruise missiles & artillery.

Video Link