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  #2982197 13-Oct-2022 10:44
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Technofreak: Agree about the eruption risks etc but the gondola was always planned to be use summer and winter snow or no snow.

 

800 people every day of the year is a lot of people to maintain as an average. If you're under in summer you've got to be over in winter, and you've got to have enough of a conversion rate of the people who are on the mountain to manage to snag extra to make up the difference. But you also want those people to be spending money in your cafes and so on too. 

 

I will give them the benefit of the doubt that the summit restrictions post White Island probably haven't helped with the summer traffic though. I did want to get up there at some point but now it's probably not worth the hassle of a day trip to Taupo, even at Level 1 or whatever Ruapehu is. 




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  #2982202 13-Oct-2022 10:50
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As much as I'd like to hang out to dry the Govt on the funding of $10mio through the PGF initially, no one could have predicted the Covid pandemic when this was all going through and the catastrophic toll it has had on tourism. Sure, there may be some questions to answer about the predicted visitor numbers used to justify the funding, but in a time where tourism was growing and seen as a huge cash / voter cow for the incumbent Government critiquing their numbers now is pointless as they have an easy out (covid).


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  #2982204 13-Oct-2022 10:56
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I guess this is where you can come back full circle and ask the question about going to town on the AG sector for methane is fine but then turning a blind eye to tourists arriving in fleets of carbon-blasting jets is somehow good and great and we should bend over backwards to encourage more of it.

 

I feel like NZ's relationship with tourists who have to travel massive distances to get here and our desire to be world leaders on climate change have never really sort of stacked up against one another. 




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  #2982210 13-Oct-2022 11:11
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GV27:

 

I guess this is where you can come back full circle and ask the question about going to town on the AG sector for methane is fine but then turning a blind eye to tourists arriving in fleets of carbon-blasting jets is somehow good and great and we should bend over backwards to encourage more of it.

 

I feel like NZ's relationship with tourists who have to travel massive distances to get here and our desire to be world leaders on climate change have never really sort of stacked up against one another. 

 

 

Tourists only looked good on paper because we had so many of them (nearly 4 Million each year), but they typically only spent on average less than $3000 each while here.

 

https://www.worlddata.info/australia/new-zealand/tourism.php

 

 

 

The "Freedom Campers" probably cost NZ by the time we had to clean up after them, then there is a large sum from health that get written off as tourists don't pay then go home.

 

All tourists should be required to pay NZ health insurance, we may as well cover the risk and make some money off all of them.


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  #2984218 18-Oct-2022 11:16
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Going to be interesting how the Government and RBNZ deal with todays news that our domestic non-tradeable inflation increased from 6.3% to 6.6% and annual inflation only dropped 0.08% to 7.2%. RBNZ expected it to be 6.4% so Mr Orr is going to have some strong OCR hikes in mind come November.

 

 

 

 





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  #2984247 18-Oct-2022 12:48
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I really wonder how much further they can go. A lot of young people are very indebted, so if the OCR goes too far beyond 4.5% then it might start to come into conflict with the Reserve Bank's financial stability imperative. 


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  #2984256 18-Oct-2022 13:16
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There'll be some smiling, some head tilting, some hand waving, the PMs mouth will move, words will come out, but none of them will actually deal with the issue of the Governments impact on inflation, but deflect to "look how bad others are" and "its Covid / Ukraine war" go to excuses


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  #2984259 18-Oct-2022 13:21
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alasta:

 

I really wonder how much further they can go. A lot of young people are very indebted, so if the OCR goes too far beyond 4.5% then it might start to come into conflict with the Reserve Bank's financial stability imperative. 

 

 

If that mattered then they wouldn't have dumped investor LVRs to zero and taken an age to hike interest rates while the MPC tried to convince us it was 'transitory'. So you can see what sort priority 'financial stability' has - it doesn't mean individuals are financially secure, or able to keep a roof over their head or even afford a nutritious meal that isn't packet noodles.

 

It's actually about preserving the underlying value of the loan books held by banks. It's about their financial stability, not ours. 


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  #2984807 19-Oct-2022 16:53
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sen8or:

 

There'll be some smiling, some head tilting, some hand waving, the PMs mouth will move, words will come out, but none of them will actually deal with the issue of the Governments impact on inflation, but deflect to "look how bad others are" and "its Covid / Ukraine war" go to excuses

 

 

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  #2985386 20-Oct-2022 16:27
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Ding Dong the witch is dead. Mallard exits Parliament today, hopefully never to return and soon to be forgotten. 

 

Unsurprisingly his trespassing of Winston Peters was termed “unreasonable” and “irrational” by the High Court, the same way I'd pretty much describe his entire term as speaker. Especially the way he treated Protesters. 

 

 


 
 
 

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  #2985392 20-Oct-2022 17:02
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Ding Dong the witch is dead. Mallard exits Parliament today, hopefully never to return and soon to be forgotten. 


Unsurprisingly his trespassing of Winston Peters was termed “unreasonable” and “irrational” by the High Court, the same way I'd pretty much describe his entire term as speaker. Especially the way he treated Protesters. 


 



Pity he's being rewarded with a nice cushy number.




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  #2985467 20-Oct-2022 18:23
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Pity he's being rewarded with a nice cushy number.

 

 

 

It's par for the course. Labour usually rewards it's lowest-performing allies with cushy employment. Andrew Kirton is earning big money at Air NZ!

 

 

 

Honestly, if it gets him out of the country, he can have his job in Ireland, though I expect our relationship with Ireland will sour once they realize what we sent them :) 

 

 

 

 


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  #2985491 20-Oct-2022 21:16
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Mallard's treatment of the protesters at parliament was trollish. Trespassing Peters who had no role in the protests at all was just silly. That all said, Mallard as a cabinet minister was as competent as any National minister, and National makes similar appointments. For that reason this does not really bother me. It's usual for both parties.

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  #2985526 20-Oct-2022 22:22
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I'd never vote National ever, but I actually think Lockwood Smith was a fairly decent Speaker of the House.


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