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#3281127 11-Sep-2024 17:35

Celebrites are only of value in that they get people to take a deeper look.
Then its a matter of if they see what they like or not.
Of course given the nature of the celebrity a fan may already recognize their is much to like

Trump has

Kane West, who knows Mr H was just misunderstood guy who was doing the right thing.
Oh and that acting icon Kevin Sorbo.
Plus mega troll 'Catturd'
Eon Musk who yearns for a testosterone dictator.
Peter 'Democracy is overrated and a disappointment' Thiel

You can tell a person by their friends.

Trump started the Taylor Swift thing with his weirdness in his speeches, and claims.
Probably miffed he can't walk into her dressing room as he did with his teen USA contestants.

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#3281129 11-Sep-2024 17:43

I have come to the conclusion this election is patently unfair.

One side has put forward a candidate who is intelligent, articulate, dynamic and affable while the other side, inexplicably, has put forward the village idiot.

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#3281130 11-Sep-2024 17:47

SJB: One side has put forward a candidate who is intelligent, articulate, dynamic and affable while the other side, inexplicably, has put forward the village idiot.

Oh don't be so modest, he's got to be at least the state idiot, and must be in the top rankings for national idiot.

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#3281138 11-Sep-2024 18:25

SJB:...while the other side, inexplicably, has put forward the village idiot.

Calling Trump a village idiot is being unkind, to village idiots.

From 1989 book “Disability and Dependency: A Creation of Industrial Societies?"

"The village idiot was long considered an acceptable social role, a unique individual who was dependent yet contributed to the social fabric of their community."

Even in his long lost youth, Trump could never reach such heights.

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#3281146 11-Sep-2024 19:00

SJB:

...the other side, inexplicably, has put forward the village idiot.

I have come to conclusion that Republicans are going to reap what they sow 😀

Also - Politico did a post-debate analysis, and it was not good for Trump: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/11/harris-biden-debate-winner-takeaways-00178442

For Trump, everything he did tonight is what voters are probably used to for him, whether they like it or not. For the MAGA faithful, nothing changed. But I’m not sure he pulled anyone who was on the fence into his camp, which means they both [Trump and Harris] have a lot more work to do.

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#3281158 11-Sep-2024 19:33

quickymart:

Also - Politico did a post-debate analysis, and it was not good for Trump:

Yes thats in line with what Ive read from right to left, generally all Ive seen are in favour of Harris coming out well on top, some even saying it was the best debate performance in the history since they have been televised. Clinical.

I'm of the opinion Harris doesn't need another debate now, she is essentially where Trump was at after the first. But I do think she needs to do far more sit down softball interviews, just to get her way "FORWARD" out there, which is largely what she has been trying to show, Trump is dragging them back, Harris wants to move forward.

She has a documentary about her, produced by CNN, released end of October, its more of a look at who she is personally and where she comes from. Conversely I do not think the Trump movie is going to do him many favours, it essentially shows how he learnt to get ahead by bullying people in business.

G Conway is calling out his mental health with his psychoPAC, there is a YT website too with his videos including the TV advert that the Pac has put out and its not flattering. Somebody had to go question it....

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#3281164 11-Sep-2024 20:34

Some more interesting post-debate reviews: https://newrepublic.com/article/185844/kamala-harris-destroyed-donald-trump-debate

https://newrepublic.com/post/185818/donald-trump-conspiracy-migrants-pets

^ look at that angry, scowling face 😀

And a Kiwi perspective - an entirely un-scientific survey by the Herald gives Harris the winning streak:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/us-election-2024-presidential-debate-kiwis-say-vice-president-kamala-harris-a-clear-winner-over-donald-trump/B5JZXVBE5VHVTGXYN6LFYQUMF4/

He [Trump] told CNN it was his “best debate”.

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told MSNBC that Donald Trump’s debate performance was a “disaster” in the spin room, saying that his debate team should be fired.

That's pretty harsh coming from someone like Lindsey Graham, who I thought was one of Trump's BFF's?

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#3281167 11-Sep-2024 21:07

quickymart:

^ look at that angry, scowling face 😀

I look forward to his movie which will show where he learnt this hate and division from. Her Documentary I get the feeling is more feel good, a black woman historically running for president, even if its not overly political.

It sums him up that face, hate and division.

Yet some people on Insta and X are saying he won the debate, all I can put this down to is being his brainwashed base. But lets hope that those who needed to see Hope vs Hate got what was needed from it.

Harris in front in NC is amazing. If she can consolidate what she has and get the numbers up, Id imagine she would also be looking for GA with 16EV. But firming up the Blue Wall will be her focus I think. Walz hopefully is effective by himself. These are now the voters not tied to any party, so I think what she offered at the same time as showing Trump up for the same ole, logically it should appeal.

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#3281168 11-Sep-2024 21:12

TeaLeaf:

I look forward to his movie which will show where he learnt this hate and division from. Her Documentary I get the feeling is more feel good, a black woman historically running for president, even if its not overly political.

I could be mistaken, but I read somewhere that he may have learned/picked that up from his Dad? (happy to be corrected on that one).

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#3281169 11-Sep-2024 21:16

Jon Stewart Tackles Harris & Trump's Debate and What This Means for the Election

The Daily Show

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#3281194 11-Sep-2024 21:56

quickymart:

I could be mistaken, but I read somewhere that he may have learned/picked that up from his Dad? (happy to be corrected on that one).

My understanding (from listening to his cousins etc) what his Dad did do was make him have a complex about losing. Hence he will do anything not to lose anything. But his methods, he had a mentor on how to do all that stuff in business which you see in the movie. My brain fog has just lost the guys name uggh, but will try to find a video on it.

But on another note, here is Conway on the PsychoPac. Watch his videos. He is spending solid money on pointing out Trumps mental state, Im no Dr but his videos/adverts seem to have evidence & examples, he uses his ex advisers, aides, all sorts in the advert.

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#3281209 11-Sep-2024 22:22

TeaLeaf:

quickymart:

I could be mistaken, but I read somewhere that he may have learned/picked that up from his Dad? (happy to be corrected on that one).

My understanding (from listening to his cousins etc) what his Dad did do was make him have a complex about losing. Hence he will do anything not to lose anything. But his methods, he had a mentor on how to do all that stuff in business which you see in the movie. My brain fog has just lost the guys name uggh, but will try to find a video on it.

You might be thinking of Roy Cohn, his lawyer for a long time.

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#3281214 11-Sep-2024 22:39

Swift's voting intention full text:

Instagram: Taylor Swift: Like many of you, I watched the debate tonight. If you haven’t already, now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take on the topics that matter to you the most. As a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything I can about their proposed policies and plans for this country.

Recently I was made aware that AI of ‘me’ falsely endorsing Donald Trump’s presidential run was posted to his site. It really conjured up my fears around AI, and the dangers of spreading misinformation. It brought me to the conclusion that I need to be very transparent about my actual plans for this election as a voter. The simplest way to combat misinformation is with the truth.

I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election. I’m voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them. I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos. I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate @timwalz, who has been standing up for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman’s right to her own body for decades.

I’ve done my research, and I’ve made my choice. Your research is all yours to do, and the choice is yours to make. I also want to say, especially to first time voters: Remember that in order to vote, you have to be registered! I also find it’s much easier to vote early. I’ll link where to register and find early voting dates and info in my story.

With love and hope,

Taylor Swift
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#3281244 12-Sep-2024 07:37

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#3281251 12-Sep-2024 08:03

I had a holiday planned to Ohio and was gonna take my Shih-tzus. Will have to re-think that now.

Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?

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