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#2214592 10-Apr-2019 19:15

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GV27:

I'm waiting to see what Greater Auckland has to say once they've had the chance to dig into Twyford's comments about the North West.

I think you will find Greater Auckland doesn’t care about West Auckland. As long as those areas that are already served by an adequate bus service also get their light rail/trams.

https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/2019/04/09/getting-light-rail-to-the-northwest-in-three-easy-steps/

Pretty unequivocally lays it out, I would have said.

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#2218044 16-Apr-2019 11:34

It is not elegant to kick someone when they are down and I genuinely have no wish to crow, but in view of some past posts here, I think the latest 1 NEWS Colmar Brunton poll deserves a mention.

When Jacinda Ardern first became Labour leader, and even after the election, she was repeatedly sniffed at and dismissed as a lightweight by some on these pages, who also could not resist detailing every self-inflicted wound of the new and inexperienced government.

Yet Ardern has risen to the demands of her office and triumphed. Labour is up, National is down, and while those shifts are not (yet) dramatic, the preferred leader ones are, at 51% to 5%. There is no conceivable circumstance in which Simon Bridges will ever become PM. Like previous Labour leaders, he is simply there to fill a role no-one else wants until someone better comes along. I have never found him particularly likeable, but it is hard not to feel a little sorry for him. He is stuck in a situation not entirely of his own making.

If things continue on the current trajectory (and of course that can always change), Labour could well be in a position to rule alone by the next election. Who would have thought that when John Key stepped down?

As a supporter of ‘progressive’ policies (whatever that means), I am glad that Labour is doing well and I hope National will not be in a position to form a government for a long time. There is a lot of damage to repair. I applaud the latest poll result and I hope the trend continues. And when the time comes, I hope Bridges gets a soft landing. He is doing a thankless job and there is no need to humiliate him further.

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#2218064 16-Apr-2019 12:01

Labour's support rising is expected. Ardern has been outstanding.

What really concerns me is 1% of people have seen what's gone on in Christchurch, the outpouring of grief and the motivations behind the attack and decided 'Actually, what we need is more (ethno)nationalism right now. I'll support NZ First instead".

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#2218071 16-Apr-2019 12:16

Glad it's only one per cent. It will be interesting to see what happens next election but it looks like NZ First really could disappear.

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#2219399 16-Apr-2019 19:07

Rikkitic:

It is not elegant to kick someone when they are down and I genuinely have no wish to crow, but in view of some past posts here, I think the latest 1 NEWS Colmar Brunton poll deserves a mention.

When Jacinda Ardern first became Labour leader, and even after the election, she was repeatedly sniffed at and dismissed as a lightweight by some on these pages, who also could not resist detailing every self-inflicted wound of the new and inexperienced government.

Yet Ardern has risen to the demands of her office and triumphed. Labour is up, National is down, and while those shifts are not (yet) dramatic, the preferred leader ones are, at 51% to 5%.

Preferred leadership poles are not a valid score card for party achievements. Trump is popular and will probably win second term, would this then logically mean that he has "risen to the demands of office and triumphed"?

While the PM has handled the initial phases of the Christchurch incident well - she appears to naturally be an emphatic person - another hard part is yet to come, namely the long term policy changes required to ensure security of the county.

In terms of the wider Government achievements, we are still waiting. Perhaps some will be achieved if a second term is won?

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#2219451 16-Apr-2019 21:15

Trump is not 'popular'. He is probably the most reviled president in American history. He has a solid core of fanatical supporters, but he has never achieved even 50% approval. The majority of Americans do not like him and do not want him. The next election will not be won by him, though it may be lost by the democrats. That remains to be seen.

Preferred leadership polls do measure how people feel about a leader, and that reflects on the party. If a party leader rates poorly, the party will also do worse, regardless of other factors.

A second term will certainly be won, and maybe a third, and a fourth. This is only the beginning.

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#2219624 17-Apr-2019 09:07

wsnz:

In terms of the wider Government achievements, we are still waiting. Perhaps some will be achieved if a second term is won?

I've been waiting for these "wider Government achievements" for over 40 years.

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#2219846 17-Apr-2019 13:36

Rikkitic:

It is not elegant to kick someone when they are down and I genuinely have no wish to crow, but in view of some past posts here, I think the latest 1 NEWS Colmar Brunton poll deserves a mention.

When Jacinda Ardern first became Labour leader, and even after the election, she was repeatedly sniffed at and dismissed as a lightweight by some on these pages, who also could not resist detailing every self-inflicted wound of the new and inexperienced government.

Yet Ardern has risen to the demands of her office and triumphed. Labour is up, National is down, and while those shifts are not (yet) dramatic, the preferred leader ones are, at 51% to 5%. There is no conceivable circumstance in which Simon Bridges will ever become PM. Like previous Labour leaders, he is simply there to fill a role no-one else wants until someone better comes along. I have never found him particularly likeable, but it is hard not to feel a little sorry for him. He is stuck in a situation not entirely of his own making.

If things continue on the current trajectory (and of course that can always change), Labour could well be in a position to rule alone by the next election. Who would have thought that when John Key stepped down?

As a supporter of ‘progressive’ policies (whatever that means), I am glad that Labour is doing well and I hope National will not be in a position to form a government for a long time. There is a lot of damage to repair. I applaud the latest poll result and I hope the trend continues. And when the time comes, I hope Bridges gets a soft landing. He is doing a thankless job and there is no need to humiliate him further.

the jury is still out if she is a good politician who can get the job done , she still hasnt put the lightweight tag to sleep because her government really hasnt done anything concrete yet, she is popular because she is a charismatic person and she has empathy with the public which makes her popular and that pulls Labour up in the polls. Just my outlook and i dont vote for any party.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2219854 17-Apr-2019 13:46

Whatever her achievements or lack of on the legislative front, she demonstrated real leadership in the face of a national tragedy and I believe this quality will carry her and the government forward from here. She has the attention and respect of the world's leaders. They will all want to sit next to her at the next big international gathering. Whatever else she is, she is no lightweight.

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#2219870 17-Apr-2019 13:53

Rikkitic:

Whatever her achievements or lack of on the legislative front, she demonstrated real leadership in the face of a national tragedy and I believe this quality will carry her and the government forward from here. She has the attention and respect of the world's leaders. They will all want to sit next to her at the next big international gathering. Whatever else she is, she is no lightweight.

i didnt say she was , she could easily follow Helen Clarke onto the world stage and do it well , but the Labour party still hasnt shown that they can get the public to believe in their policies and to implement them which is what her and labour 's job is to do and the respect of the world leaders wont matter for much if she cant.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#2219890 17-Apr-2019 14:19

vexxxboy:

i didnt say she was , she could easily follow Helen Clarke onto the world stage and do it well , but the Labour party still hasnt shown that they can get the public to believe in their policies and to implement them which is what her and labour 's job is to do and the respect of the world leaders wont matter for much if she cant.

You may ultimately be right, but at this stage I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think many others are, as well.

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#2219892 17-Apr-2019 14:26

PM Jacinda Ardern says there will be no CGT, "not because I don't believe in it, but because I don't believe New Zealanders do".

That is quite a cop out. Should have said it has a lot of merit as proven elsewhere, but its too complicated and expensive here to implement and payback is a long way off. I don't believe New Zealanders do to me sounds like they won't vote for us afterwards

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#2219893 17-Apr-2019 14:27

No CGT.

I can't be mad at the outcome, but the fact is that there have been some very bad calls around this from day dot, compounded by keeping Cullen around to attack National as a paid public servant.

It seems like this was done solely because NZF wouldn't get it over the line, and not because the glaring issues pointed out with the report or the logic behind what the Working Group was arguing for. It really seems like they've learned nothing.

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#2219902 17-Apr-2019 14:37

GV27:

No CGT.

I can't be mad at the outcome, but the fact is that there have been some very bad calls around this from day dot, compounded by keeping Cullen around to attack National as a paid public servant.

It seems like this was done solely because NZF wouldn't get it over the line, and not because the glaring issues pointed out with the report or the logic behind what the Working Group was arguing for. It really seems like they've learned nothing.

Learned nothing? You have assumed why they chose this, then concluded based on that. The report favoured in 7 to 10, 3 of the 10 had concerns. Seems fair to me, I just feel her reasoning was weak, based on votes. Its either a good idea or its not. The report shows it is and it isnt in parts.. Just say its no good, not that Kiwis dont like it (and wont vote for me)

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#2219904 17-Apr-2019 14:39

I think there should be CGT. It doesn't make sense to me that there isn't. But I understand why people are opposed when everyone in this country sees property investment/inflation as the way to get rich. I guess that will continue.

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