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  #2294834 12-Aug-2019 14:57
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kingdragonfly:

President Trump considers himself a branding wizard, but he is vexed by a branding crisis of his own: how to shed the label of “racist.”

 

Well, lets for a moment consider the possibility that despite all evidence, he isn't a racist:

 

 

From a speech at a fundraiser this weekend.

 

Talking about South Korea, Trump said it makes great TVs and has a thriving economy, “So why are we paying for their defense. They’ve got to pay.” He then mimicked the accent of the leader Moon Jae-in while describing how he caved in to Trump’s tough negotiations.

 

Turning to Japan, Trump then put on a fake Japanese accent to recount his conversations with Shinzo Abe over their conversations over trade tariffs.

 

 

Nope.  I was going to say that was casual or unconscious racism or that he was just such a dumb-$%# if he really wanted to shed the label of "rascist".  He doesn't, he's a white nationalist through and through, he's proud to be racist, and he's got a lot of support from fellow racists in America. No rebranding is needed - it's worked well for him so far - so why change?

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  #2295026 12-Aug-2019 19:08
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Jimmy Kimmel Live

Trump has some trouble spelling his name on Twitter

He has spent 199 of his 928 days in office on the golf course,

Also some new tactics for winning the support of black voters

Mike Pence gives advice about how to handle critics in a Christian way.

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  #2295134 12-Aug-2019 21:16
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  #2296341 13-Aug-2019 09:16
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Montana state man believed he was acting on Trump's orders in attacking boy for wearing hat during national anthem

By Seaborn Larson, Missoulian.com

The attorney for a 39-year-old man charged with assaulting a 13-year-old child who didn't take his hat off for the national anthem says his client, compromised by a traumatic brain injury, believes he was acting on an order from President Donald Trump.

Small town Superior Montana resident Curt Brockway was charged Monday with felony assault on a minor. His defense attorney, Lance Jasper, told the Missoulian Wednesday the president's "rhetoric" contributed to the U.S. Army veteran's disposition when he choke-slammed a 13-year-old, fracturing his skull, at the Mineral County fairgrounds on Aug. 3.

"His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished," Jasper said. "He certainly didn't understand it was a crime."
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Brockway was apprehended at the Superior fairgrounds on Saturday after several people saw the alleged assault. According to charging documents filed in Mineral County District Court on Tuesday, Brockway told Deputy Micah Allard the national anthem was playing before the rodeo got underway, and he noticed a young teenager still wearing his hat. Brockway told the deputy he asked the youth to remove his hat because it was disrespectful, to which the youth responded by saying "(expletive) you."

[Kingdragonfly note: witnesses said there were no words exchanged. Brockway attacked unprovoked]

Charging documents indicate Brockway told the deputy he grabbed the boy by the throat, lifted him into the air and slammed the boy on the ground. Taylor Hennick, who was at the fair, told the Missoulian earlier this week that Brockway defended his action as people closed in on him by saying the boy had been disrespectful. Deputies later learned the boy had suffered a concussion and a fractured skull.
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His defense attorney said ... the president's calls to weed out those who have protested the national anthem or criticized the nation, Brockway is no longer thinking for himself but responding to a presidential order.

"Obviously he (Brockway) owes a big portion of accountability for what took place, but it's certain that there was other things at work here that definitely contributed," he said.

Trump's rhetoric has varied in degrees of severity. In 2017, he told an Alabama crowd that he would "love" to see NFL owners punish, even fire, players who knelt during the national anthem. Videos of fans who agreed with the president subsequently posted videos burning their jerseys and memorabilia when teams refused to pull players who protested the anthem.

But his defense attorney said Wednesday he believes his client's condition means he can be "exploited" by such "animosity" from the president.

"Trump never necessarily says go hurt somebody, but the message is absolutely clear," Jasper said. "I am certain of the fact that (Brockway) was doing what he believed he was told to do, essentially, by the president."

Jasper plans to deploy that argument. "There is the defense that his mental illness or brain injury that will be raised, along with permission given by the president," Jasper said. "Whether that passes muster with the court as a viable defense is for a different day."

Last year, the 6th U.S. Court of Appeals found Trump did not incite violence at a Louisville, Kentucky, rally in 2016 when he said "get 'em out of here," as supporters began pushing and shoving protesters at the event.

His defense attorney said "obviously it's a tragedy whenever someone is injured, especially a young kid, but with my client being a veteran with a traumatic brain injury, it is absolutely fair to say he got caught up in a heightened animosity and a heightened rhetoric that too many people are engaged in," Jasper said.

"Everyone should learn to dial it down a little bit, from the president to [Montana state] Mineral County."

Kingdragonfly update: the Judge released the man on his own recognizance, meaning he's roaming in the local area with no bail.

Even though he has previous charge from 2010 of assalt with a deadly weapon, he only faces 5 years maximum for possibly damaging the child's brain.

America, f__k yeah!

https://missoulian.com/news/local/superior-man-believed-he-was-acting-on-trump-s-orders/article_4842efed-7f34-5855-81fb-92ad2dc0c64f.html

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  #2296461 13-Aug-2019 12:04
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I guess Trump watches "Real Time with Bill Maher".

Former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci, who's a bit of a sleaze himself, was a guest.

Look for "Real Time With Bill.Maher 2019 08 09" or "Real Time With Bill Maher S17e23"

Parts of the show on Official Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/RealTime/videos

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  #2299367 14-Aug-2019 16:51
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The New York Times - At Chemical Plant Under Construction, Trump Builds List of Grievances

 

Aug. 13, 2019

 


MONACA, Pa. — President Trump’s appearance on Tuesday at the site of a multibillion-dollar chemical plant under construction here was ostensibly about energy policy.

 

Instead, the crowd of mostly white, male workers in bright orange and yellow construction vests was the audience for a 67-minute speech that was nearly indistinguishable from something that Mr. Trump would deliver at one of his campaign rallies.

 

Mr. Trump railed against China, President Barack Obama, the lawsuits he is facing, the money he claims being president has cost him, Hillary Clinton, Democrats running against him and, as always, his news coverage. ...

 

 




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  #2299384 14-Aug-2019 18:17
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Trump official rewrites "Statue Of Liberty" poem to reflect trump’s “no poors” policy

Vanity Fair
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Ken Cuccinelli doesn’t think the whole “give me your tired, your poor” business applies anymore.

The base of the Statue of Liberty famously displays the words of Emma Lazarus, “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” But, if Donald Trump’s top immigration official had it his way, the poem would be revised to reflect the president’s “rich immigrants only” policy.

Speaking to NPR on Tuesday, the day after the administration unveiled a new rule that will penalize green card applicants for “financial liabilities” like having a low credit score or using Medicaid, Ken Cuccinelli, acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, was asked if Lazarus’s poem, “The New Colossus,” remains “part of the American ethos.” To which Cuccinelli offered some suggested edits inspired by the executive branch’s take on who should or shouldn’t be allowed to live in the United States. “They certainly are,” Cuccinelli said. “Give me your tired and your poor—who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge.”

One day prior, Cuccinelli had told reporters at the White House that he was “certainly not prepared to take anything down off the Statue of Liberty,” though apparently, having slept on it, he’s now up for some kind of appendage. During his interview with NPR, Cuccinelli noted that the plaque bearing Lazarus’s words “was put on the Statue of Liberty at almost the same time as the first public charge was passed—very interesting timing.” It’s not at all clear what point he thought he was making.

Despite having zero actual experience in immigration policy, Cuccinelli was hired in May thanks to previous work sponsoring bills that tried to repeal birthright citizenship and would force employees to speak English in the workplace. (Had the latter passed, we assume Cuccinelli would have proposed revising the Statue of Liberty’s poem to read, “Speak English, bitch.”) In 2013, his mother told the Washington Post that as Christians, the Cuccinellis raised their children to “care [for] the poor” and that “if someone is starving, you want to bring him a meal, not a book on how to cook,” lessons her son apparently forgot. (Speaking of his Christian values, Cuccinelli has said that homosexuality “brings nothing but self-destruction, not only physically but of their soul.”)

This isn’t the first time a member of the Trump administration has cast aspersions on the whole “give me your tired, your poor,” business. Back in 2017, Stephen Miller, the president’s chief white rage officer, told Jim Acosta that he didn’t give a sh_t about the poem because it “was added later and is not part of the original Statue of Liberty.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/ken-cuccinelli-statue-of-liberty

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  #2299405 14-Aug-2019 18:46
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Every night he kneels at his bed to thank God for the sheer number of idiots in 'merica.

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  #2299419 14-Aug-2019 19:41
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Indonesian company cancels Chinese financing for Trump Project
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The head of the project claims ‘the theme park has nothing to do with the Trump Organization’

U.S. President Donald Trump’s son and his Indonesian business partner said Tuesday that a theme park that also features a Trump hotel and condos will no longer have Chinese financing.

In a move that alarmed Trump critics, MNC Land, the Indonesian company that is developing the theme park owned by Indonesian billionaire Hary Tanoesoedibjo, said in May that it had hired a subsidiary of Chinese state-owned Metallurgical Corp. of China to build the park in its West Java Lido City development just outside Jakarta.

“The theme park has nothing to do with the Trump Organization, we have to make it clear,” Tanoesoedibjo said at a news conference in the capital that was also attended by Donald Trump Jr. to introduce the launch of Trump Residences in West Java and Bali.

Tanoesoedibjo said his company and a Chinese bank had discussed a loan for his theme park.

“It was done by our team, but finally we dropped it,” he said, without elaborating.

News reports said a Chinese government-backed $500 million loan for the project had been signed, but that was denied by the company in May.

“It has nothing to do with Trump,” Trump Jr. said. “Obviously he (Tanoesoedibjo) has got a large development, and the two have nothing to do with each other.”

The property owner signed a deal four years earlier for the development to include a Trump-branded hotel along with a golf course, country club, luxury condominiums, mansions and villas — billed in its promotional material as “Trump Residences.” Together with a theme park, hotels, shops, homes and a dining and entertainment district that MNC is developing on its own, this first stage of “Lido City” is to occupy 3,000 hectares (7,413 acres).

Trump Residences in Lido alone sits on a 350-hectare (865-acre) plot that can be accessed directly through the newly opened Bocimi highway from Indonesia’s capital.

The two groups are also working together on the 102-hectare (250-acre) Trump International Resort, Golf Club and Residences located near Bali’s sacred Hindu temple of Tanah Lot. They promise breathtaking views and a super-sized golf course overlooking the temple.

The two Trump Residences projects in West Java and Bali are to cost about $1.7 billion. The Trump Organization will manage the properties under an agreement made with MNC Land in 2015, before Trump was elected.

Even though Trump’s involvement in the project predated his election, both deals raised concerns that foreign governments could influence his administration, which has been in a bitter trade war with China.

“My father is not at all involved, and he won’t make decisions that affect a country based on a real estate deal,” said Trump Jr., who is executive vice president of the Trump Organization. “We should be very ... very clear about that.”

Tanoesoedibjo said the projects are basically funded by his group of companies.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/indonesian-company-cancels-chinese-financing-for-trump-project-2019-08-13

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  #2299627 15-Aug-2019 10:47
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The Washington Post - Stocks losses deepen as a key recession warning surfaces

 

14 August

 


The global economy has begun to shudder.

 

On Wednesday, the U.S. stock market tumbled after a reliable predictor of looming recessions flashed for the first time since the 2008 financial crisis. ...

 

Two of the world’s largest economies, Germany and the United Kingdom, appear to be contracting.

 

Argentina’s stock market fell nearly 50 percent in recent days, and growth in China has slowed.

 

Whether the events presage an economic calamity or just an alarming spasm are unclear.

 

But unlike during the Great Recession, global leaders are not working in unison to confront mounting problems and arrest the slowdown.

 

Instead, they are increasingly at each other’s throats.

 

President Trump has responded by both claiming the economy is still thriving while dramatically ramping up his attacks on Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, seeking to deflect blame. ...

 



 

 

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 The Donald is totally out of control ... and totally clueless about finance.




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  #2299853 15-Aug-2019 15:37
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A brutal dinner': celebrities talk about meeting Donald Trump

By Stuart Heritage, The Guardian

Woody Harrelson is the latest person to share his embarrassing story of meeting the reality TV star before he became president

If you think it’s bad enough sharing a planet with Donald Trump, spare a thought for poor Woody Harrelson. Because according to the man himself, Harrelson once shared a dinner table with the president, and it went just as well as you would expect. In a recent Esquire interview, Harrelson deployed a Trump anecdote for the ages.

In 2002, then Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura invited Harrelson to “a brutal dinner” at Trump Tower, because Trump was trying to convince Ventura to be his 2004 Democratic running mate. Over two and a half hours, Harrelson, Ventura, Trump and his fiancee, Melania Knauss, enjoyed each other’s company. Except Harrelson had a terrible time. Here’s how he described it:

“Now, at a fair table with four people, each person is entitled to 25% of the conversation, right? I’d say Melania got about 0.1%, maybe. I got about 1%. And the governor, Jesse, he got about 3%. Trump took the rest. It got so bad I had to go outside and burn one before returning to the monologue monopoly.”

The story is a reminder of what is perhaps Trump’s one saving grace. Before he was president, he was just a common or garden celebrity. And this means that every other celebrity who ever met him has a story about what an idiot he is. Here are a few others.

Charlie Sheen recalls running into Trump in a restaurant, just before he was to get married. Because he couldn’t make it to the ceremony, Trump removed his expensive platinum and diamond cufflinks and handed them to Sheen as a gift. “Six months later I was having some jewellery appraised and remembered the cufflinks,” Sheen recalled in 2016. “When the jeweller took a look, she recoiled and said: ‘In their finest moment, they were cheap pewter and bad zirconia.’ They had ‘Trump’ stamped on them. I think that says a lot about the man.”
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At the height of The Apprentice’s popularity, Megan Mullally found herself performing the Green Acres theme tune alongside Trump – clad in full hayseed outfit – as part of an excruciatingly protracted Emmys bit. Years later, she told Stephen Colbert: “He wanted to win it, so we won it. The next day, I was in my Will & Grace dressing room and the phone rang. It was Donald Trump. And he said: ‘You know what? We really needed to win that thing, and we did. And you were a big part of that. Not only did we win it, we killed them. It was a landslide.’”

Trump also played golf with many celebrities, none of whom had a good word to say about him. When Samuel L Jackson was asked if he or Trump was the better golfer, he replied: “Oh, I am, for sure. I don’t cheat.” Alice Cooper appeared to back this up during an interview when he said: “The worst celebrity golf cheat? I wish I could tell you that. It would be a shocker. I played golf with Donald Trump one time. That’s all I’m going to say.”

However, only Oscar de la Hoya is on record as detailing exactly how Trump cheats at golf. In 2016, he recounted a game to reporters. “First ball, [Trump] hits off to the water, gets another ball from his pocket. Hits it off to the left, out of bounds. Another one to the water. Then the fourth ball he hits – I know it went to the bushes. But Donald, what he does, he tees off first so he can take off right away. I pipe mine down the middle. So we go off to our ball, and who do we see? Donald Trump, right in the middle of the fairway.”

Let’s end with some rapid-fire anecdotes from celebrities who turned down Trump’s romantic advances.

Salma Hayek: “He got my number and he would call me to invite me out. When I told him I wouldn’t go out with him even if I didn’t have a boyfriend, he called – well, he wouldn’t say he called, but someone told the National Enquirer – that he wouldn’t go out with me because I was too short.”

Brooke Shields: “I was on location during a movie, and he called me right after he had gotten a divorce … and said: ‘I really think we should date, because you’re America’s sweetheart and I’m America’s richest man, and the people would love it.’”

Emma Thompson: “He said: ‘I want to offer you accommodations in one of my beautiful establishments and maybe we could have dinner sometime. And I thought, ‘You’re ringing my trailer to offer me accommodations and dinner?! You’re weird!’ I just said: ‘Well that’s very kind of you. I’ll ring you later.’ And I just put the phone down and told everyone. It was a source of great amusement.”

Finally, special mention should go to Candice Bergen, who is responsible for perhaps the most revealing story of all. She went on a blind date with Trump in the 1970s and revealed that “he was wearing a three-piece burgundy suit and burgundy patent leather loafers in a burgundy limousine”. Money can buy you anything, so long as it’s a horrible colour.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/aug/12/celebrities-meeting-trump-stories-woody-harrelson

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I read an interesting story today about maturity. Some people will still be in an adolescent stage in some areas of their life. Relates a little bit to trump. But also to the face that maybe this is how he connects with his voter base. He will have a few more cards to play before the recession spirals in my opinion. But I think he is thinking of doubling down before the 2020 election. Don’t know if we will get that far but when the 2 year bonds return more than 10 year bonds it’s usually a good indicator of where the global economy is sitting.

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  #2299982 15-Aug-2019 19:42
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Trump Calls Military Drills 'Ridiculous' After Reading Letter From Kim Jong Un

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

The bromance between our President and the North Korean dictator continued over the weekend as Trump bragged about the "beautiful letter" he received from Kim.

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The Check In: Trump and Trucking

Late Night with Seth Meyers

Seth takes a break from breaking news to check in on America’s truckers, who Trump promised would prosper under his administration.

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What Are Trump and Netanyahu Afraid Of?

New York Times, By The Editorial Board

Barring Representatives Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib shows weakness and intolerance, not strength.

It is difficult to stomach the notion that an American president would put pressure on Israel to deny entry to two members of the United States Congress.

There are not many traditions of decorum that President Trump has not trampled on since entering the White House. But to put at risk, so cynically, America’s special relationship with Israel solely to titillate the bigots in his base, to lean so crassly on a foreign leader to punish his own political adversaries, to demonstrate so foul a lack of respect for the most elemental democratic principles, is new territory even for him.

Though facing a difficult election next month for which he sorely needs the support of his fractured right-wing base, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was said to be leaning toward allowing Representatives Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan to travel through Israel “out of respect for the U.S. Congress and the great alliance between Israel and America,” as his ambassador to Washington, Ron Dermer, wisely said last month. But, on Thursday, Mr. Netanyahu cravenly bowed before the pressure from Mr. Trump.

“It would show great weakness if Israel allowed Rep. Omar and Rep. Tlaib to visit,” Mr. Trump tweeted on Thursday morning. “They hate Israel & all Jewish people, & there is nothing that can be said or done to change their minds.”

Sad, to borrow one of Mr. Trump’s favorite words. How sad that two leaders — each desperate to look tough to their own bases — are risking a bipartisan relationship built between these two nations over generations. Only weak leaders would risk so much for a reward so negligible. To what end? To win a few political points against two of the newest members of Congress? To capture a few news cycles? To dial up the outrage machine just one more notch? Confident leaders would never have risked so much for so little.

Though many American presidents have sought to influence Israeli decisions throughout the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, they usually did so diplomatically — and to advance America’s interests. Mr. Trump, by contrast, leaned on Mr. Netanyahu as he would on one of his own appointees, in broad view, and in direct violation of what the president of the United States should be doing when democratically elected lawmakers are threatened with a blockade by an allied leader.

There can be, and has been, considerable debate over what the two congresswomen, the first two Muslim women elected to Congress and both sharp critics of the Israeli government, have said and done. They have supported the controversial Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (B.D.S.) movement aimed at pressuring Israel into ending its occupation of the West Bank, a movement which some Jews have deemed to be anti-Semitic.

Yet, from the outset, Mr. Trump has pounced on the religion and background of the two congresswomen to fan racial divisions. Ms. Omar and Ms. Tlaib were two of the four congresswomen of color, along with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts, who Mr. Trump said should “go back” to the countries they came from, giving rise to chants of “send her back” at a subsequent Trump political rally.

The visit Ms. Omar and Ms. Tlaib were contemplating was not to Israel proper, but to the West Bank, where they were to visit Hebron, Ramallah and Bethlehem, as well as Israeli-occupied East Jerusalem, on a trip co-sponsored by a Palestinian organization, Miftah, that promotes “global awareness and knowledge of Palestinian realities.” A visit was planned to the Al Aqsa Mosque, on what Israelis call the Temple Mount, an especially volatile site in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There is little question that their visit would have focused on Palestinian grievances over the Israeli occupation.

All that was clearly troublesome for Mr. Netanyahu, especially the support of the congresswomen for the B.D.S. movement. A relatively recent law allows the Israeli government to deny entry to supporters of the movement; it was this law that the government used to deny entry to the two congresswomen.

In April the United States barred Omar Barghouti, one of the co-founders of the B.D.S. movement, from entering the country when he was scheduled to deliver a series of talks and attend his daughter’s wedding. Other American public figures have been detained by Israeli authorities, ostensibly because of their political views, including the IfNotNow founder, Simone Zimmerman, who was held at the border; a B.D.S. advocate, Ariel Gold, who was denied entry to the country; and the journalist Peter Beinart, who was held at the airport. Mr. Netanyahu later called Mr. Beinart’s detention a “mistake.”

Yet contrary to Mr. Trump’s tweet, it is blocking entry by two American legislators who are critics of Israel that shows great weakness, especially after Israel hosted visits by delegations of 31 Republican and 41 Democratic lawmakers this month. It has long been Israel’s mantra that critics of its policies should come see for themselves, and the country is certainly strong enough to handle any criticism from two members of Congress. Mr. Trump has done Israel no favor.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/15/opinion/israel-omar-tlaib.html

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