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  #2311720 6-Sep-2019 12:58
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dclegg:

 

 

Roberts' analysis of the meeting was that the President was "just looking for acknowledgment that he was not wrong for saying that at some point, Alabama was at risk -- even if the situation had changed by the time he issued the tweet" on Sunday morning, in which he said the state "will most likely be hit." The President also provided Roberts with graphics to make his points.

 



So Trump's defense is that in his role as the President of the United States it is OK to be issuing an official statement to the American people based on outdated and inaccurate information. Information that would undoubtedly be at his fingertips.


 

 

They probably used some bigly words so he did not bother to read it.

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  #2311733 6-Sep-2019 13:31
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Saw an interesting article on CNN comparing Trump, Boris and ... of all people ... Justin Beiber.

And Justin Beiber was the mature one.



The lesson Justin Bieber could teach Boris Johnson and Donald Trump

CNN Opinion by Holly Thomas

By most people's standards, Justin Bieber has lived a full and -- to put it kindly -- experience-rich life....

The boyish superstar posted a raw essay on his Instagram page on Monday, amounting to a catalog of his past wrongdoings. These included "heavy" drug use, disrespecting women, abusing his relationships, and letting his extraordinary fame and wealth at a very young age go to his head. It was an emotive and sincere outpouring of remorse, a sentiment too often left unexpressed.

By facing up to his faults -- and correctly identifying their genesis, he has shown more humility than men of twice his years. In fact, he's demonstrating more personal responsibility than two of the most powerful people on the planet.

It may seem extreme to compare a pop superstar like Justin Bieber to prime ministers and presidents -- that's because it is. To do so also makes a necessary and warranted point about what so many of us have grown numb to -- the lack of accountability for those in power. Bieber lives in the world of entertainment, but his willingness to apologize for his actions in a highly public way shines a spotlight on the fact that too often, in the world of politics, a refusal to say sorry is admired, even rewarded, in those who hold high office.

Consider the UK's current (things aren't looking great) leader, Boris Johnson. ...

...Johnson, who is 55 years old and therefore -- at least numerically -- a seasoned adult, rarely expresses a shred of remorse for the myriad slip-ups, indiscretions, and outright lies which have peppered his entire professional career. And why would he? Unlike Justin Bieber, who as a child relied on food banks and the care of a struggling teenage mother, Johnson's entire life has been buttressed with privilege. And in his case, that privilege has fostered a monstrous sense of entitlement.

...On the subject of imprudence enabled by massive economic privilege and power, you could carpet a luxury golf course with the things Donald Trump hasn't apologized for in his 73 years.
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  #2311748 6-Sep-2019 13:47
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dclegg:So Trump's defense is that in his role as the President of the United States it is OK to be issuing an official statement [about hurricane Dorian] to the American people based on outdated and inaccurate information. Information that would undoubtedly be at his fingertips.


George Orwell, 1984

“In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it.

It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.

Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy.

The heresy of heresies was common sense.”

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  #2311807 6-Sep-2019 15:04
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How pathetic can this get? The Bahamas have been flattened by a devastating hurricane. The entire country's infrastructure has been devastated. The death toll is rising. There is still no way to get aid to the mass of survivors, who may yet succumb to disease, thirst, starvation and exposure to the elements. 

 

The hurricane has weakened but still threatens parts of the American coast. Thousands have lost power and the ability to refrigerate essential medications like insulin. There is already suffering and it is certain to get worse. 

 

Acts of heroism are being reported in the media. One man carried an injured woman to safety on his back. Another rescued dozens of people with his jet ski. MSNBC is celebrating the way people of all beliefs and backgrounds come together in an emergency. 

 

And where is the president of the United States during this emergency, whose job it is to provide leadership and coordination and inspiration and spiritual strength in such a time of crisis? Well, after playing some golf, he is mainly sitting in his comfortable wood-paneled office whining about unfair media coverage of his irresponsible assertion that Alabama would be hit by the storm as well. Not only is he useless as a leader, he actually makes things worse by panicking people with incorrect nonsense. He is fat, stupid, lazy, and a despicable reprehensible human being. Americans should be deeply ashamed that this putrid hamburger-stuffing piece of crap is still defiling the office of the president of the United States! 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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  #2311959 6-Sep-2019 19:35
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For the 14,000th reply to this mega-thread, I thought this was amusing:

 

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  #2311985 6-Sep-2019 21:14
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In the video, he's got the classic "I've been snorting Adderall as a picker-upper" snorts as usual.

http://dctribune.org/unearthed-story-that-newsweek-killed-reveals-trumps-medical-records-show-addiction-to-drugs/

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  #2312056 7-Sep-2019 07:27
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https://www.npr.org/2018/03/27/597015218/trump-under-oath-sometimes-combative-often-boastful-usually-lacking-details

Trump Under Oath: Sometimes Combative, Often Boastful, Usually Lacking Details

NPR, by Tamara Keith

In June 2016, then-candidate Donald Trump raised his right hand and swore to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. On the verge of becoming the Republican nominee for president, Trump sat for a videotaped deposition, a familiar experience for a businessman who had sued or been sued thousands of times.

"I imagine you've had your deposition taken a number of times?" asked lawyer Deborah Baum, who led the questioning. "I have, yes," Trump answered.

Records of President Trump's past depositions show a familiar pattern of boasting, sometimes battling opponents and giving little deference to factual details — pitfalls that could all come into play in various legal cases before too long.
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In the 2016 case, Trump had sued for breach of contract after celebrity chef Geoffrey Zakarian pulled out of plans to open a restaurant in Trump's Washington, D.C., hotel. Zakarian countersued. At the heart of the disagreement was Trump's disparaging description of Mexican immigrants in the 2015 speech launching his presidential campaign.
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Baum: Why do you think they wanted to get out of the lease?

(Trump's lawyer objects, but he proceeds to answer.)

Trump: I don't understand why, why they did this. I'm running for office. I obviously have credibility because I now, as it turns out, became the Republican nominee running against, we have a total of 17 people that were mostly senators and governors, highly respected people. So it's not like, you know, like I've said anything that could be so bad. Because if I said something that was so bad, they wouldn't have had me go through all of these people and win all of these primary races. And I'm pretty even in the polls or close to even in the polls right now.
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In deposition transcripts over the years, Trump comes across as uninterested in details, unfamiliar with legal documents and occasionally impatient. One theme that emerges is preparation. Baum, in the 2016 session, asked Trump what he did to prepare.

Baum: What did you do to prepare for the case today, for the deposition?

Trump: I would say virtually nothing. I — I spoke with my counsel for a short period of time. I just arrived here, and we proceeded to the deposition.

Baum: Thank you. So you didn't look at any documents or

Trump: No, I didn't.

Baum: anything.
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"If other people in your organization makes that decision, do they do it with your approval and/or sanction?" she asked. "Generally, yes," Trump said.

"When would that not be the case?" Beck asks. "I don't know of any case where that's not the case," Trump responds.

But, then, throughout the deposition he repeatedly claims a lack of knowledge, saying details were handled by his children and telling Beck she will have to check with his lawyers or accountant to get an answer.

At one point, Trump gets testy.

"I think they're stupid questions you're asking me," Trump says. "I think you're asking very stupid questions."

Whether these were strategic claims of ignorance or simply a lack of familiarity with the document and details is unclear. But it fits a pattern going back to 2007, when Trump sat for two days in a deposition in a suit over the book Trump Nation, The Art of Being The Donald by Tim O'Brien.

"Oh no no no, he did not prepare," said O'Brien in an interview with NPR. "It wasn't even just my sense of it. He was comically unprepared."

O'Brien was the defendant in that lawsuit and spent countless hours working with his attorneys to prepare for his own deposition in the case, poring over binders of documents and refreshing himself on the contents of the book. Trump, he says, exhibited no such preparation, at one point saying he decided the valuation of his golf courses with "mental projections."

The video of Trump's deposition in that case was never released, but there is a transcript.

O'Brien says Trump's past experience under oath provides a cautionary tale for the president and his lawyers.

"You don't even have to lay a trap if you are asking about a factual circumstance with documents to back it up and the individual at hand, in this case, Donald Trump isn't familiar enough with the fact pattern and has a propensity to exaggerate in the best cases and misrepresent or lie in the worst ones," O'Brien said.
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  #2312066 7-Sep-2019 08:39
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Trump is Abnormal, It's His Superpower

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In the last few years, we haven't talked much about President Trump. Maybe we're hoping that this channel is something of a respite. But it's also that I literally have no idea whether giving this stuff more attention helps or hurts America / The World. But I think, at the very least, understanding it is important, so that's what this video is for.


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  #2312069 7-Sep-2019 08:52
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  #2312089 7-Sep-2019 09:05
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This Is Donald Trump's Base

Be Less Stupid

No President in history has had as loyal a base of supporters as Donald Trump.

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  #2312405 7-Sep-2019 16:49
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Rikkitic:

 

How pathetic can this get? The Bahamas have been flattened by a devastating hurricane. The entire country's infrastructure has been devastated. The death toll is rising. There is still no way to get aid to the mass of survivors, who may yet succumb to disease, thirst, starvation and exposure to the elements. 

 

The hurricane has weakened but still threatens parts of the American coast. Thousands have lost power and the ability to refrigerate essential medications like insulin. There is already suffering and it is certain to get worse. 

 

Acts of heroism are being reported in the media. One man carried an injured woman to safety on his back. Another rescued dozens of people with his jet ski. MSNBC is celebrating the way people of all beliefs and backgrounds come together in an emergency. 

 

And where is the president of the United States during this emergency, whose job it is to provide leadership and coordination and inspiration and spiritual strength in such a time of crisis? Well, after playing some golf, he is mainly sitting in his comfortable wood-paneled office whining about unfair media coverage of his irresponsible assertion that Alabama would be hit by the storm as well. Not only is he useless as a leader, he actually makes things worse by panicking people with incorrect nonsense. He is fat, stupid, lazy, and a despicable reprehensible human being. Americans should be deeply ashamed that this putrid hamburger-stuffing piece of crap is still defiling the office of the president of the United States! 

 

 

@Rikkitic, it would only be surprising if he didn't do all of the above. All hail president schmuck.

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  #2312413 7-Sep-2019 17:28
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Nothing says "we have full confidence in Trump" than making sure he can't be challenged.



Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses as Trump challengers cry foul

The moves, which critics called undemocratic, are the latest illustration of the president's total takeover of the GOP apparatus.

Politico, By Alex Isenstadt

Four states are poised to cancel their 2020 GOP presidential primaries and caucuses, a move that would cut off oxygen to Donald Trump’s long-shot primary challengers.

Republican parties in South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona and Kansas are expected to finalize the cancellations in meetings this weekend, according to three GOP officials who are familiar with the plans.

The moves are the latest illustration of Trump’s takeover of the entire Republican Party apparatus. They underscore the extent to which his allies are determined to snuff out any potential nuisance en route to his renomination — or even to deny Republican critics a platform to embarrass him.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld said in a statement, “We don’t elect presidents by acclamation in America. Donald Trump is doing his best to make the Republican Party his own personal club. Republicans deserve better.”
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Trump advisers are quick to point out that parties of an incumbent president seeking reelection have a long history of canceling primaries and note it will save state parties money. But the president’s primary opponents, who have struggled to gain traction, are crying foul, calling it part of a broader effort to rig the contest in Trump’s favor.

“Trump and his allies and the Republican National Committee are doing whatever they can do to eliminate primaries in certain states and make it very difficult for primary challengers to get on the ballot in a number of states,” said former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), who recently launched his primary campaign against the president. “It’s wrong, the RNC should be ashamed of itself, and I think it does show that Trump is afraid of a serious primary challenge because he knows his support is very soft.”

“Primary elections are important, competition within parties is good, and we intend to be on the ballot in every single state no matter what the RNC and Trump allies try to do,” Walsh added. “We also intend to loudly call out this undemocratic bull on a regular basis.”

RNC officials said they played no role in the decisions.

The cancellations stem in part from months of behind-the-scenes maneuvering by the Trump campaign. Aides have worked to ensure total control of the party machinery, installing staunch loyalists at state parties while eliminating potential detractors.
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  #2312621 8-Sep-2019 09:04
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KIM JONG DON

 

Salon - Scaramucci says Trump "may not have early stage dementia, but he has full-blown early stage fascism"

 


Former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci claims that President Donald Trump's behavior reveals "full-blown insanity" - and invoking the 25th Amendment could be necessary.

 

"If you were on the board of a company, and you had a CEO acting this erratic - and literally in a gigantic meltdown ... it's like a Chernobyl situation - you would have to replace that CEO," Scaramucci said. "He's running the free world, and he's the leader of the greatest longstanding republican democracy ..."

 

Scaramucci announced Monday that he plans to form a coalition of former Trump staffers to oppose the president's re-election bid and replace him with a more mentally stable alternative in 2020. ...

 

 

 

 

The American Prospect - What If President Trump Truly Decompensated?

 

September 4, 2019

 


In the 1971 Woody Allen film Bananas, after a revolutionary leader succeeds in overthrowing the government of a small Latin American country, he begins issuing bizarre edicts. 

 

He declares the country’s official language to now be Swedish, and announces that “all citizens will be required to change their underwear every half hour. Underwear will be worn on the outside, so we can check.” 

 

The new president’s aides, realizing that he has gone off the deep end, immediately remove him from power. 

 

Our current situation would resemble that kind of absurdist comedy were it not for the fact that the stakes are so high and the consequences of Donald Trump’s presidency so grave. 

 

But the real difference between America today and Bananas lie not in the president’s behavior but in the apparatus of support that surrounds him.

 

One can make a convincing argument that President Trump has become so erratic and his public comments so disturbing that he has shown himself to be mentally incapable of carrying out his duties. 

 

Alternatively, one could argue that not much has really changed, and in fact he has been this erratic since he took office. 

 

Even if you don’t agree with either of those assertions, it’s worth asking: What would happen if Trump truly decompensated? ...

 

The answer is: exactly what happens now. 

 

Trump has around him an infrastructure of support - his own aides, Republicans in Congress, and perhaps most importantly, a conservative media apparatus centered on Fox News - that will work tirelessly to excuse, explain and justify literally anything he does, no matter how terrifying. ...

 




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  #2313022 8-Sep-2019 14:28
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Stop the presses! President Trump has actually tweeted a rational, intelligent statement, if it is indeed from him: "If they (the Taliban) cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don't have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway," Mr Trump said on Twitter.

 

- RNZ

 

 




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  #2313027 8-Sep-2019 14:41
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Rikkitic:

 

Stop the presses! President Trump has actually tweeted a rational, intelligent statement, if it is indeed from him: "If they (the Taliban) cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don't have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway," Mr Trump said on Twitter.

 

 

EDIT

 

Here is the full text of the tweet:

 

Verified account @realDonaldTrump

 

3:51 PM - 7 Sep 2019

 

 

Unbeknownst to almost everyone, the major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet with me at Camp David on Sunday. They were coming to the United States tonight. Unfortunately, in order to build false leverage, they admitted to ... an attack in Kabul that killed one of our great great soldiers, and 11 other people. I immediately cancelled the meeting and called off peace negotiations. What kind of people would kill so many in order to seemingly strengthen their bargaining position? They didn’t, they ... only made it worse! If they cannot agree to a ceasefire during these very important peace talks, and would even kill 12 innocent people, then they probably don’t have the power to negotiate a meaningful agreement anyway. How many more decades are they willing to fight?

 



 

Bigly words: "Unbeknownst" ... "false leverage" ... and perfect spelling and grammar.

 

This was not written by The Donald.  😶 




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