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#3009477 13-Dec-2022 14:04

Latest December Curia poll out today has:

National up 1 point to 39%
Labour down 2 points to 33%
ACT steady on 10%
Greens steady on 8%
Maori Party 3.5%
NZ First 2.9%

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#3009530 13-Dec-2022 16:20

Well there goes "Be Kind"...

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/12/jacinda-ardern-apologises-after-being-caught-calling-david-seymour-arrogant-prick-in-parliament.html

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#3009545 13-Dec-2022 16:45

sir1963:

Well there goes "Be Kind"...

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/12/jacinda-ardern-apologises-after-being-caught-calling-david-seymour-arrogant-prick-in-parliament.html

Oof, I have to say though, it's a bit rich calling someone arrogant when you spend a lot of your time being condescending :)

She has form, it feels like she had just been waiting and waiting for a chance to say 'It's simple Simon' to Simon Bridges, and she had nothing to say when one of her MP's eviscerated the white males in the National party.

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#3009548 13-Dec-2022 16:47

sir1963:

Well there goes "Be Kind"...

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2022/12/jacinda-ardern-apologises-after-being-caught-calling-david-seymour-arrogant-prick-in-parliament.html

I have to admit I am surprised by this. It is not the persona she usually projects. What did Seymour say to annoy her so much?

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#3009551 13-Dec-2022 16:50

Rikkitic:

I have to admit I am surprised by this. It is not the persona she usually projects. What did Seymour say to annoy her so much?

Victim blaming in 2022? ;)

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#3009553 13-Dec-2022 16:55

I'm just curious what she was responding to.

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#3009559 13-Dec-2022 17:13

Sticks and stones, really this is school yard stuff and of amusement value only.

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#3009579 13-Dec-2022 18:44

sen8or:

Sticks and stones, really this is school yard stuff and of amusement value only.

Yep, Seymour is borderline alt-right, headline seeker, just a follower hanging on to Nationals coat strings.

What did he say? Not sure, but he is as stated. Like Peters, he is needed, and other than that, value-less, like Peters.

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#3009665 13-Dec-2022 22:00

I think maybe she was looking in the mirror when she said it, and thinking about all the promises she has made in 5 years....

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#3009667 13-Dec-2022 22:05

tdgeek:

Yep, Seymour is borderline alt-right, headline seeker, just a follower hanging on to Nationals coat strings.

What did he say? Not sure, but he is as stated. Like Peters, he is needed, and other than that, value-less, like Peters.

Your response to this is almost as bad as her comments to start with.

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#3009704 14-Dec-2022 07:07

tdgeek:

Yep, Seymour is borderline alt-right, headline seeker, just a follower hanging on to Nationals coat strings.

What did he say? Not sure, but he is as stated. Like Peters, he is needed, and other than that, value-less, like Peters.

He's nothing like Peters, which would go some way to explaining why NZ First isn't in parliament and ACT still is.

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#3009714 14-Dec-2022 07:59

Rikkitic:

I'm just curious what she was responding to.

Here's the transcript

Ardern made the comment under her breath after a wide-ranging question from Seymour covering hate speech, inflation, immigration and education.

"Can the prime minister give an example of her making a mistake, apologising for it properly, and fixing it?" he asked in his final supplementary question.

"There's been a number of occasions where we acknowledge that we will not have perfect responses," she responded.

"We've openly said that, for instance, managed isolation and quarantine was something that was very difficult at the time and that there were people affected by it and that we would do things differently if we were ever confronted with that again ... but I stand by the work that we've done as a government over this last year and over this past term.

"We've always made decisions that we believe to be in the best interests of New Zealand at the time."

As she sat again and the Speaker announced the next question, Ardern could be heard saying "he's such an arrogant prick".

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#3009731 14-Dec-2022 08:45

So in true Ardern fashion, she didn't address the question, and hes the arrogant one?

Pot/kettle?

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#3009732 14-Dec-2022 08:48

sen8or:

So in true Ardern fashion, she didn't address the question, and hes the arrogant one?

Pot/kettle?

As others have mentioned, she is the Queen of spin. The problem with that is eventually you will get found out and after five years of repeated failures the chickens are coming home to roost.

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#3009735 14-Dec-2022 09:00

sen8or:

So in true Ardern fashion, she didn't address the question, and hes the arrogant one?

Pot/kettle?

LOL I read that and though that as well!

I mean, it's *outrageous* what he asked her, the *audacity*. Her comment was *totally* justified!!!!

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