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#3367828 27-Apr-2025 09:41

Meet the man who made six figures selling anti-Elon Musk Tesla stickers:
In recent months, an increasing number of Tesla owners have put stickers on their cars to signal their disapproval of Tesla's founder and CEO, Elon Musk, and his work in the Trump administration.

Matthew Hiller, owner of online shop MadPufferStickers, listed the sticker, "I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy," on his store in 2023, after becoming disillusioned with how Musk was running X.

"[Musk] was sort of becoming a bully and sort of pushing disinformation. And due to that, I just didn't want anything to do with him or his brand."
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He's has stickers that read "Anti Elon Tesla club," "Elon killed my resale value" and "Elon is a dogebag." Sales took off around the time Musk became a fixture of President Trump's presidential campaign. MadPufferStickers raked in more than $100,000 over a 30-day stretch between January and February, Hiller said.

He added that he's sold 70,000 stickers, magnets and clings across Amazon, eBay, Etsy and Redbubble.

Around half of Americans have negative views of Tesla and Elon Musk, according to an April CNBC survey. Hiller's sales reflect public sentiment about Musk — as well as sales of Teslas, which have fallen dramatically.
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#3368235 28-Apr-2025 11:57

To the moon! 🤣

Hello, Ground!

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#3368354 28-Apr-2025 17:34

There is independent evidence supporting Nyree Hinton's lawsuit against Tesla, which alleges that the company manipulated odometer readings to prematurely void warranties.

This discrepancy could result in warranties expiring earlier than expected and affect resale value.

Several Tesla owners have reported similar issues with their vehicles' odometers. For instance, some have observed that their odometers overstate mileage by up to 15%, leading to concerns about warranty coverage and vehicle depreciation.

A different owner noted that their odometer indicated 98,000 milesHe believes it's actually 82,000

The lawsuit references a Tesla patent for a "miles-to-electrical energy conversion factor," suggesting that Tesla's odometer readings may incorporate energy consumption, driving behavior, and predictive algorithms rather than solely measuring actual distance traveled.

Tesla odometer uses “predictive algorithms” to void warranty, lawsuit claims: Ars Technica

Tesla is facing a new scandal that once again sees the electric automaker accused of misleading customers. In the past, it has been caught making "misleading statements" about the safety of its electric vehicles, and more recently, an investigation by Reuters found Tesla EVs exaggerated their efficiency. Now, a lawsuit filed in California alleges that the cars are also falsely exaggerating odometer readings to make warranties expire prematurely.

The lead plaintiff in the case, Nyree Hinton, bought a used Model Y with less than 37,000 miles (59,546 km) on the odometer. Within six months, it had pushed past the 50,000-mile (80,467 km) mark, at which point the car's bumper-to-bumper warranty expired. (Like virtually all EVs, Tesla powertrains have a separate warranty that lasts much longer.)

For this six-month period, Hinton says his Model Y odometer gained 13,228 miles (21,288 km). By comparison, averages of his three previous vehicles showed that with the same commute, he was only driving 6,086 miles (9,794 km) per 6 months.
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#3368358 28-Apr-2025 17:49

Kookoo:
To the moon! 🤣

I'm guessing you're trying to show that Tesla stocks are rebounding, increasing in value in the long term.

This is definitely contrary to popular belief. While some get rich betting on short term trends, most playing the stock market get in and stay in.

Warren Buffett is known for saying: "Our favorite holding period is forever."

So why could Tesla stocks have short-term rises? (see related "saw tooth graphs")

1) Dead Cat Bounce: A quick, short-lived recovery in price after a steep fall. Investors or algorithms see the stock as temporarily oversold (too cheap too fast), buy in hoping for a rebound, but the bounce fades, and the stock continues falling.

2) Short Covering: Traders who bet against the stock (short sellers) buy shares back to lock in profits. This buying activity temporarily pushes the price up — even though nothing fundamentally improved.

3) Psychological Support Levels: Traders hope for a bounce.

4) News-Driven Blips: Even in an ugly downtrend, minor "good" news can spark a brief rise. Good news could be rumors that Elon Musk is getting out of politics.

5) Algorithmic Trading: Computers can detect extreme drops and auto-trigger buys for tiny rebounds, especially in very volatile stocks.

Again if you want to try to get rich with Tesla, you do you. As usual with any gambling, don't bet what you can't lose.

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#3368409 28-Apr-2025 22:32

kingdragonfly:
Kookoo:

To the moon! 🤣

I'm guessing you're trying to show that Tesla stocks are rebounding, increasing in value in the long term.

What I'm trying to say is that Tesla is a hyper meme stock in a libertarian regime where there's minimum government oversight, no meaningful fiduciary duty, and no functional civil or criminal legal system to be concerned about. In other words, no logic applies. You can question every business decision, every product design aspect, every leadership personality trait. It won't matter, the faithful will keep driving the price up. And there's lots of faithful, and lots of resources to keep the price going up.

Hello, Ground!

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#3369257 30-Apr-2025 19:23

Has he gone? 😎

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#3369264 30-Apr-2025 20:17

Where to? The moon?

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#3369363 30-Apr-2025 21:06

The Rocket could not make it to Mars, yeh, Moon has a new crater. :-)

There is the casino side of of the Share Market, just look up GameStop craziness.
Coiners did not invent the rug-pull, and with future , puts and calls, you can make money as well going down as money going up.

Big fish can drive the market and eat up the little fish who come in thinking there are rich pickings only to become food themselves.
So if you have power in the market maybe you can set traps of a rapid move, and then pull your rug.

With Trump backing down on tariffs with car company discounts and probably more to come a certain euphoria has driven things until ?

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#3369595 1-May-2025 16:50

quickymart:

Where to? The moon?

Naaah, under a rock would be enough. 😁

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#3369601 1-May-2025 17:17

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/elon-musk-working-remotely-for-doge/TWYEKHEMNVD2HBWHYTFHSRW2UI/

He's...working remotely? But he hates that!

Mind you, these are the Republicans today..."do as I say, not as I do" 🙄

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#3369607 1-May-2025 17:58

Billionaires insecure about the size of their rockets...

What the Amazon versus SpaceX Satellite Mega Constellation War Means for Earth: Scientific American

Amazon has launched its first operational Project Kuiper satellites in its attempt to compete with SpaceX’s Starlink—but experts remain concerned about space debris and astronomy
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#3369668 2-May-2025 07:43

Musk leaves DOGE and leaves behind "a legacy" (his words), I think "word salad" is more fitting:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/musk-doge-made-progress-effective-after-100-days/story?id=121347452

"I think it's possible to do that, but there's that. It's a long road to go and, you know, this, this, this really, it's really difficult," he said. "But our rate of savings per day is pretty good. You know, we're like, $1.6 billion a day, 100 days in."

Musk claimed that if DOGE is going to get to $1 trillion in cuts, it may come down to "how much pain is the cabinet and Congress willing to take. It can be done, but it requires dealing with a lot of complaints."

Something I'm sure he's no doubt about to become quite familiar with since he's heading back to Tesla.

From his final(?) cabinet meeting:

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#3370161 3-May-2025 10:45

Tesla is well and truly cooked …

In France, Tesla reportedly delivered only 863 vehicles in April. That’s down 59% year-over-year and down 24% from the first month of Q1 2025.

In Denmark, the automaker has delivered only 180 vehicles in April. That’s down a staggering 67% compared to April 2024 and 59% from January 2025, when Tesla did not yet have the new Model Y.

In Portugal, Tesla delivered only 239 vehicles in April based on registration data – down 47% year-over-year and down 39% from the first month of Q1 2025.

More data from European countries is expected to be released in the coming days, with the full dataset to be made available later this month.

https://electrek.co/2025/05/01/tesla-tsla-sales-continue-crash-europe-despite-new-model-y/

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#3370201 3-May-2025 14:29

Protest signs. I thought the one on the left was pretty funny.

The one on the right I've seen before similar. Looks painful.

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