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  #3300503 23-Oct-2024 14:32
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Being a billionaire and acting like this, Elon Musk is the single most dangerous person in America now.





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  #3300524 23-Oct-2024 15:12
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again for today;

National polls

 

Yougov Dem +3.0%
Morning Consult Dem +4.0%
Ipsos Dem +3.0%

Then you get outliers with Repub +2% which paints a stark contrast in Optics. But who knows, they could be on the money.

just my 2c

Its the other indicators I think "may" paint a picture., more than 3x the individual donations, enthusiasm 2:1 early voters, the massive flood of volunteers. But momentum Harris has a +11% lead in Favorability (but Id not put it passed them to vote in a president most of them dislike lol)

But, imo Harris should be talking Economy and Immigration because that is imo what will turn undecided Repubs who will vote Don by default. sitting with Liz Cheney is nice and all, but imo its not moving the chain. 


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  #3300711 23-Oct-2024 21:18
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I realise this will probably never happen in my lifetime but imagine how much American politics would change (for the better, IMO) if this was the actual system they used:

 




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  #3300750 23-Oct-2024 22:44
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Its interesting idea though.
Multiparty in America could end up much the same.

 

Strong Religious Groupings, and power of Wealth that Elon is displaying out in the open.
Dark money and such. Their absolutism, and unwillingness to compromise so all can progress.

 

States that benefit greatly from their outsized share of voting power are not going to give that up easily if at all. You might end up with a Balkan fragmentation if you tried.

 

The critical issue is the Dog-Eat-Dog nature of the USA that in the end puts citizens in a battle for survival against each other. 

 

That few $ and hour job working for tips with no medical etc. 

 

Without a social safety net, medical care, and many other things, even disaster relief and reliable infrastructure. If you were in Flynt not even clean water that is not poisoned by lead.

 

Politics becomes a much darker struggle against "them" who seek to get a rung higher.
If you are not Gaming the system then you are just Game in someone elses hunt. 

 

We have our own that want to drive us in this direction.


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  #3301191 24-Oct-2024 19:32
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A few news pieces from today:

 

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/2024-election/allan-lichtman-predicts-kamala-harris-win/ >> Allan Lichtman, Nostradamus of US elections is still picking the election for Harris, even though polling is showing a narrowing between her and the orange buffoon

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4948668-republican-pollster-frank-luntz-kamala-harris-momentum-frozen/ >> conversely, (Republican) pollster Frank Luntz reckons that Harris has halted her lead as she has started attacking Trump as opposed to defining herself

 

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/reich-track-wrong-track

 

What did move the needle [on voter's preferences] was this message:

 

    Nearly half of Donald Trump’s Cabinet have refused to endorse him. When Trump learned during the Capitol riot that his supporters were threatening to kill his own vice president, he said ‘so what?’ and refused to do anything to assure the vice president was safe. Republican governors, senators, and House members have all said the same thing: We can’t give Trump another four years as president.”

 

As soon as the message turned from an abstract argument against Trump into an unambiguous case that Trump’s own former allies were making against him, it became the single most persuasive line tested by Blueprint. It was stronger even than abortion rights and Social Security. In other words, hearing about Trump’s unfitness from people who worked with him, and from Republicans one would expect to defend him, seems to make a difference.

 

I think the takeaway here is pretty obvious: Voters have become inured to many shocking things about Trump, but maybe the one thing that can shake them out of that torpor is people who knew or worked with Trump stepping up to make the case from their own experience.

 

The messenger matters as much as the message.

 

Very true, maybe Harris needs to get John Kelly on board to help out but I don't know if he would be interested in joining her on the stage or something.


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  #3301220 24-Oct-2024 21:34
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The city of Pittsburgh is well-known for making steel. So in the past, they got the team name "steelers"

Trump is well-known for stealing. So in the future, he'll get the prisoner number 8645.


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  #3301225 24-Oct-2024 22:01
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Check out this video about US state of Arizona electricity bills, and how it could affect the upcoming election.

Average Arizona household in hottest month
US $235 = NZ $389

Video show shows bill exceeding
US $500 = NZ $830

Arizona ranks second in the US for solar energy potential.

On the hottest days, typical high temperatures in Arizona can soar to around 43°C (110°F)

As of July 2024, the voter registration statistics in Arizona show that 35% of registered voters identify as Republicans, while 29% identify as Democrats

We Went to Arizona: The Energy Bills Will Shock You

"Arizonans are having to choose between paying for their electric bills and their groceries. Arizona's Corporation Commission is supposed to keep rates affordable. Instead, its GOP majority lets power companies jack up rates. But three seats are up for election"


 
 
 

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  #3301363 25-Oct-2024 11:04
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GOP,MAGA, Evangelicals, Trumplicans, Trump party of Law and Order 'Yeh Right'.

 

Republican Candidate Caught on Camera Stealing Rival's Campaign Mailer
https://www.newsweek.com/video-shows-candidate-stealing-rival-mailer-1974358

 

New York State Assembly candidate Joe Mastroianni is seen outside a home in Scotia on October 17, 2024. Footage from a doorbell camera shows the Republican hopeful removing a rival's campaign flyer.

 

In USA interfering with mail is a Federal Offence.

 

We did have a supposedly worthy community leader doing this, so I expect even worse crazy to come from normal citizens as things heat up.

 

Wisconsin mayor carts away absentee ballot drop box, says he did nothing wrong
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/25/politics/wisconsin-wausau-mayor-doug-diny-moved-drop-box/index.html

 

Reminded of Mr Whale Oils, Politics is Dark ( Leading to 'Lets Make it Darker!' )
The excuse for acting badly and then ever worse until...

 

 


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  #3301374 25-Oct-2024 11:59
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MAGA Faithful Say McDonald’s E. Coli Outbreak Is a Conspiracy to Hurt Trump: Gizmodo

“So let me get this straight. Right after Trump works at McDonalds suddenly the CDC reports an E. Coli outbreak from their quarter pounders. Sick people,” one user wrote Tuesday on X.

"I think this was orchestrated by deep state Harris supporters after Trump’s visit to McDonald’s," one Trump supporter wrote.
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The Trump supporters called the illnesses from McDonald’s “convenient timing,” and the conspiracy theory that it was all a plan to hurt Trump apparently caused some in MAGA world to eat even more McDonald’s because they didn’t believe the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, CDC.

“Yep. I got a double quarter pounder at McDonald’s yesterday, already had plans for dinner tonight but, going to get another one tomorrow. Cuz the CDC is full of sh1t,” one user responded.
...

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  #3301532 25-Oct-2024 17:39
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I imagine Trump saying this: "It looks like we're still haven't captured the entire "creepy vote" segment. Let's get Gary Busey to speak at our next campaign stop."



Tucker Carlson speech about Trump should be elected.

"There has to be a point at which dad comes home.

And when dad gets home, you know what he says?

You've been a bad girl. You've been a bad little girl, and you're getting a vigorous spanking right now. You're getting a vigorous spanking because you've been a bad girl.

And it has to be this way."

Tucker Calls Trump “Daddy,” Kamala Gets Beyoncé & Election Overload is Killing Us


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  #3301553 25-Oct-2024 19:40
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ezbee:

 


GOP,MAGA, Evangelicals, Trumplicans

 

...speaking of which...

 

 

Tell me you're part of a cult without telling me you're part of a cult...


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  #3301558 25-Oct-2024 20:21
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ezbee:

 

Quickymart. Don't underestimate.

 

'Free money' will draw in a wide swathe, and give them a direct pipeline to influence those that are confused sitting in the middle.

 

 

Sadly(?), it looks like Elon's little "lottery" has come to a close once authorities contacted him and pointed out he was (highly likely) breaking the law: 

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/187519/elon-musk-doj-warning-1-million-lottery

 

 


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  #3301681 26-Oct-2024 08:05
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Closing in on election day, here's this week's lot of political cartoons:

 

 

 

(an alternative cartoon featuring both Harris and Trump working at McDonald's):

 

 

(this next one could also fit into the Deplorables thread):

 

 

 

 

This absolute hypocrisy does my head in too: 

 

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/10/25/2024-elections-live-coverage-updates-analysis/mcconnell-johnson-write-harris-00185528

 

Speaker Mike Johnson and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell asked Vice President Kamala Harris in a rare joint statement to tone down her rhetoric in the lead-up to Election Day, days after Harris said she considered Donald Trump a fascist.
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Their statement does not mention Trump’s recent rhetoric, in which he’s referred to Harris as a “fascist,” “marxist,” “communist” and “comrade.” The former president has also railed against “enemies within” and called for using government resources to prosecute domestic political opponents — such as California Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff and former Speaker Nancy Pelosi.


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  #3301686 26-Oct-2024 08:50
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Speaking of Republican Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Mike Johnson, he was very uncomfortable with questions about Trump's story about golfer Arnold Palmer's large penis.

My guesses on what Mike Johnson calls his penis
  • Stiff upper lip
  • old guard
  • old Glory guardian
  • Bible Belt buckler
  • Senator Robert A. Shaft
  • Senator Harry Goldwater
  • my Cuckoo Commander
  • the Dementia Director
  • William F. Buckley Jr.



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  #3301737 26-Oct-2024 11:29
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quickymart:

 

has come to a close once authorities contacted him 

 

 

I read a few days back he had been instructed he could be facing up to 5yrs for it. But I expected him to do the usual, not what he is told to do and make a trolling post on HIS "freespeech" platform. 

Does anyone know if the news website RawStorry is legit? I saw a post on there that makes sense to me. Evidentally a conservative had predicted if Don loses he will be drift from Politics, but now hes changed his mind and said he would be back due to access to a big grifting platform, ie watches, sneakers, bibls made in Ch supposedly.

I dunno would he really have made that much? I suppose to some, even without proof of where its sourced etc, the watch price is worth it for the novelty factor if you rich enough.

I never thought beyonce would be back. 

I still think Harris needs to hammer home the Economy comparison and that she intends to target Cost of Living day one, too many Repubs have listed this as the reason to vote Don, she is glued to Biden, she needs to break free from that bind. People want to know she will make it her #1 day one focus. too soo many they dont see that Covid was the cause of the economy but its too late to explain that now. Ppl just want those peak pandemic prices lowered. 


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