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#3302225 28-Oct-2024 08:13

quickymart: James goes on CNN with Jake Tapper and tries defending the orange buffoon's bs. It doesn't go well.

"In a contentious interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper, vice presidential nominee JD Vance minimized former Trump officials' warnings about fascism as mere policy differences.

“It's about policy, it's not about personality,”

Classic "red herring fallacy"

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#3302546 28-Oct-2024 18:40

Looks like an odd race, I think Penn and Michigan will hold, but it looks to me the Dems hopes and polls are in Georgia and arizona is a real possibility. Not sure whats up with Wisconsin.

I hope she does go on Rogan, the BROgan type right wing sheep really need to see her in a longer more casual format. Maybe smoke a doobie :-), hey shes had a beer with a host already. She might appear cool which is what a lot of these white males think she is not and why they dollow Don in denegrating her.

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#3302599 28-Oct-2024 22:16

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/kamala-harriss-full-court-press

A good look at the closing stages of Harris's campaign, and this spells it out quite well for what the other side has to, uh, "offer":

I think it is inexplicable, as my friend Tom Nichols writes at the Atlantic, that what’s most alarming and offensive about Trump is what so many millions most like about him—and want from him.

I think they don’t get the huge risks of Trump as commander in chief. I don’t think they get how physically, emotionally, and psychologically dangerous Trump’s world is for women of every age. I don’t think they get how little he cares about what happens to them or how little he understands what his policies will do to them.

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#3302610 29-Oct-2024 07:39

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/532158/philadelphia-da-sues-elon-musk-and-his-super-pac-over-1m-sweepstakes

Turns out Elon may be breaking the law after all. Sure the money isn't much to him (probably hardly anything) but I would think if he had any principles left he would stop this.

Then again, who am I kidding?

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#3302660 29-Oct-2024 11:46

Nice summary by MSNBC Rachel Maddow about Republican's racism reaping what they've sown.

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#3302663 29-Oct-2024 11:55

So, from the video above, Republican Mike Rogers is the one committing voting fraud.

They always accuse others of what they are doing.

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#3302710 29-Oct-2024 13:13

Is Trump a Fascist or Just Fascism-Adjacent?

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#3302727 29-Oct-2024 14:25

Ballot boxes are being set on fire in the Pacific Northwest. Will this inspire copycats?

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#3302733 29-Oct-2024 14:34

Trump's campaign has been trying hard to distance itself from the "comedian" with his racist bs (I bet if someone called him one to his face he wouldn't just say "that was a really funny joke"), however his campaign's comments about speakers "not being vetted" flies in the face of this story: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trumps-shock-comic-was-set-to-call

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#3302760 29-Oct-2024 15:31

quickymart:
Trump's campaign has been trying hard to distance itself from the "comedian" with his racist bs

Trump: standing before judge: "Yours honor. I swear I never seen dat frankly hilarious comedian never before. I wasn't even in the country when it happened. All dose pictures slapping him on the back and laughing was what-you-called eight-eyed generators.

I swear on my bible and my mudder's grave.

As the leader of the 'Leopards Eating People's Faces Party' I condone, err I mean condemn, all leopards eating people's faces"

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#3302829 29-Oct-2024 18:24

In George Orwell's 1984, the term for speech that is the opposite of the truth is "doublethink". In the article below, the group that call themselves "The Freedom Caucus" is a federal congressional caucus consisting of Republican members of the United States House of Representatives. It is generally considered to be the most conservative and furthest-right bloc.

The US founding fathers, naïve and trusting in states politicians would always support democracy, dictated that the states allocate their votes in the Electoral College, which the few electorates then elect the President.

Note because of the electoral college, it's been 20 years, 2004 George W. Bush, secured won more popular vote than the democrats. In the 2016 presidential election, Donald Trump received 46.1% of the popular vote.

A federal congressional Republican suggest that the state legislature give all electoral votes to Trump, ignoring the votes cast, because the state legislatures knows that Trump would get all the votes anyway.

Specifically in North Carolina, the state legislatures have super-majorities of Republicans, and should just say "hurricane" and give all votes to Trump.

Freedom Caucus leader endorses radical proposal for North Carolina to hand its electoral votes to Trump: Politico

The chair of the conservative House Freedom Caucus says the North Carolina Legislature should consider allocating the state’s presidential electors to Donald Trump even before votes are counted in the swing state.

Representative Andy Harris (Maryland) said Thursday that such a step by North Carolina’s Republican-controlled Legislature “makes a lot of sense” given the devastation wrought by Hurricane Helene in the western part of the state. Counties in that region are expected to vote heavily for Trump.

Potential difficulties with voting in the hurricane-damaged area would be a basis for the state Legislature to declare in advance that Trump should win the state’s 16 electoral votes, Harris said at a Republican Party dinner in Maryland’s Talbot County.

“You statistically can go and say, ‘Look, you got disenfranchised in 25 counties. You know what that vote probably would have been,’” Harris said during an exchange with a speaker at the dinner. “Which would be — if I were in the Legislature — enough to go, ‘Yeah, we have to convene the Legislature. We can’t disenfranchise the voters.’”

Harris’ comments were in response to a keynote speech by Ivan Raiklin, a pro-Trump activist who has long embraced a radical strategy of state legislatures guaranteeing Trump’s reelection if they deem the 2024 election tainted by fraud and corruption. Raiklin posted a video of his full speech on X as well as a separate clip of his exchange with Harris.

In his remarks, Raiklin argued that in addition to North Carolina, Republican-controlled legislatures in New Hampshire, Arizona, Nebraska, Georgia and Wisconsin could take similar steps by meeting on Election Day and awarding their electors to Trump. Harris asked Raiklin how he could justify his plan in other states that were unaffected by storm damage.

“It looks like just a power play,” Harris said. “In North Carolina, it’s legitimate. There are a lot of people that aren’t going to get to vote and it may make the difference in that state.”

Asked to elaborate on his remarks, Harris issued a statement through his campaign: “As I’ve repeatedly said, every legal vote should be counted. I would hope everyone could agree that legal American voters whose lives were devastated by the recent storms should not be disenfranchised in the upcoming voting process.”

Under the Constitution, state legislatures have the power to choose how to allocate their votes in the Electoral College. All 50 states assign their electors based on the popular vote of their citizens.

North Carolina election officials have attempted to address challenges voters are facing in the state’s western counties. They’ve added new early voting sites and expanded the ability for displaced voters to obtain absentee ballots outside their home county. The Trump campaign has supported measures to ease voting in light of the hurricane.
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#3302933 29-Oct-2024 22:19

I got concepts of a plan... ;-p

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#3302939 29-Oct-2024 22:27

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-allies-bemoan-madison-square-garden-rally-racist-and-vulgar-comments/ar-AA1t60cL?cvid=8127ec841f394e58f35f37b5a0ffffdf&ei=10

Interesting seeing how a few Republicans have even spoken out against the racist bile spewed at the orange buffoon's rally.

I thought this part was quite pertinent:

John Fredericks, a conservative radio host and Trump ally, said the selection of radio host Sid Rosenberg and comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, in particular, was “asinine,” and that they “should have been better vetted.”

“Here we are talking about two obscure people that have nothing to do with this election, instead of the 100,000 people that were there, the tremendous speeches, the love for President Trump, the great closing of the campaign that Trump is doing,” Fredericks said. Madison Square Garden can hold about 20,000 people, though thousands more than that lined up to gain entry to the rally.

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#3302968 30-Oct-2024 08:26

quickymart: John Fredericks, a conservative radio host and Trump ally, said the selection of radio host Sid Rosenberg and comedian Tony Hinchcliffe, in particular, was “asinine,” and that they “should have been better vetted.

I suggest sending three "Thank you" baskets

Baron Trump, son of Trump, who recommended the two

"comedian" Sid Rosenberg

"comedian" Tony Hinchcliffe

A note should say

Dear [Recipient's Name],

I wanted to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude. Your efforts played a pivotal role in ensuring Kamala Harris's election victory. Your saying for what every Republican was thinking did not go unnoticed, and I am truly grateful for everything you have done.

Thank you for being such an integral part of this journey. Your contributions have made a significant impact, and I am honored to have had you on the Democrats side. Your Venmo payment of $0.02, two cents, has been sent.

With heartfelt thanks, thank you for electing Kamala Harris."

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#3302971 30-Oct-2024 08:38

Barron Trump is turning out to be a little psychopath.

Who'd have thought?

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