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#152050 14-Sep-2014 15:05

Anyone planning to go to the Moment of Truth event tomorrow at the Auckland Town Hall.

Interesting articles from NZ Herald

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11324113
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11324278

I particularly like how a Pulitzer prize winning journalist is being called a "henchman" four times if my count is right.

http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/government-considered-mass-surveillance-but-ruled-john-key-video-6080067

And the GCSB are just Norton Anti-Virus for the country. When you can't defend the truth you start attacking the messenger. I don't think Greenwald has ever said that he never wanted to have a security service. It's just that terrorist threats was the argument used for much more perverse reasons.

My favorite tweet so far: https://twitter.com/BarristerNZ/status/510903979060903936

Plus Greenwald being interviewed by the Internet leader.

Glenn Greenwald has a point about being called names when you have run out of arguments and is unbecoming of a PM.

Stay classy JK!

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#1128335 14-Sep-2014 15:08

I would but have to wash my hair tomorrow

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#1128342 14-Sep-2014 15:23

yeah nah

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#1128344 14-Sep-2014 15:24

yawn

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1128348 14-Sep-2014 15:28

It'll end up being a fizzer: "we're going to announce something everyone already knew but this just simply confirms".

Unless the revelation hits the average persons wallet or grossly interferes in their private life then most will ignore it - not defending such a position but for most it isn't relevant to them.

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#1128384 14-Sep-2014 16:22

If it was so important , why have they waited for so long to release it, when they could have told us when it was discovered. Releasing it in election week, come on.

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#1128386 14-Sep-2014 16:23

before everyone gets carried away they should read this

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/joshua-foust-on-the-nsa-leaks-2013-10

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1128388 14-Sep-2014 16:24

johnr: I would but have to wash my hair tomorrow

You have hair? Not the last time I saw you :)

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#1128401 14-Sep-2014 16:51

I think that the fact this story has been in the news for a few days now and has only just raised its head on Geekzone shows that most people think its a fizzer (that's my analysis anyway).

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#1128403 14-Sep-2014 16:58

Agree with the above sentiments wholeheartedly.
If Kim had something so each shatteringly important it would have been announced weeks ago and the current government dismantled.

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#1128408 14-Sep-2014 17:18

I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference too. But as KDC has already said it won't make any difference.

I am however ~~surprised~~ disappointed how complicit the general population is in regards to how our country is run. Sign of the times really.

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#1128409 14-Sep-2014 17:19

geekiegeek: I think that the fact this story has been in the news for a few days now and has only just raised its head on Geekzone shows that most people think its a fizzer (that's my analysis anyway).

personally I'd rather not see politics on Geekzone as it achieves nothing, those that have strong views rarely change so it ends in people getting offside with each other and being disliked because of their political leaning.

I do understand why people should be allowed to discuss what they like in forums but it seems to achieve little hence reason I tend to stay out of them.

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#1128410 14-Sep-2014 17:23

BarTender:
johnr: I would but have to wash my hair tomorrow

You have hair? Not the last time I saw you :)

Did it say it was the hair on top of my head?

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#1128416 14-Sep-2014 17:36

johnr:
BarTender:
johnr: I would but have to wash my hair tomorrow

You have hair? Not the last time I saw you :)

Did it say it was the hair on top of my head?

#backhair #shudder 5 eyes shouldn't be watching.

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#1128427 14-Sep-2014 17:45

BarTender: I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference too. But as KDC has already said it won't make any difference.

I am however surprised disappointed how complicit the general population is in regards to how our country is run. Sign of the times really.

He said no matter what the PM has done people would still like him, Even if there was a video of JK shooting kittens in his back yard.

IMO it might make some difference, We will just have to wait and see

Regardless of if you think its going to be a fizzer or not, You can watch it live on http://kim.com or if you're in auckland you can go down to the town hall

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#1128428 14-Sep-2014 17:46

mattwnz: If it was so important , why have they waited for so long to release it, when they could have told us when it was discovered. Releasing it in election week, come on.

Kim said the timing was decided to suit when his guests could come. There are going to be other guests too

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