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Topic # 223039 9-Sep-2017 17:08
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A decision has been made to rebuild the Christchurch Cathedral at a cost of $108 million taking up to ten years.     If that money were applied to providing free breakfasts and lunches to all decile one and two schools it would pay for those meals for around seven to ten years.   


A few days ago Radio NZ did a survey of what kids brought to school for lunch at a decile 10 school and at a decile 1 school and the results are heart breaking.     I think the video will be on their website if you want to look it up.


Around two years ago our 'wonderful' parliamentarians narrowly rejected a bill that if enacted would have provided free lunches and breakfasts at all decile one and two schools.    Hardly a radical proposal seeing there are plenty of poor kids at decile three and higher schools but it would have been a start.  


To finish I would say well done to all the companies and individuals who are doing something about this issue and feeding kids, however, my point is that it should be funded properly by Government.


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  Reply # 1861376 9-Sep-2017 17:12
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One thing that can be guaranteed is that $108 million will end up being a lot higher.


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  Reply # 1861377 9-Sep-2017 17:13
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Yea what a laugh aye, stupid govt and religious people.

Brian Tamaki managed to do it without govt help.




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  Reply # 1861383 9-Sep-2017 17:17
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BTW my edit was to fix a spelling error.




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  Reply # 1861399 9-Sep-2017 17:46
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  Reply # 1861402 9-Sep-2017 17:50
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Only $25m committed by central govt.

 

$10m by council ("subject to public consultation")

 

The balance the church is paying for, presumably more than what they get from insurance.

 

I'm glad they made the decision.  The alternatives seemed to be building a new, modern, and supremely hideous temple in which to worship the invisible man in the sky - Chch would have had something like the tabernacle in Salt Lake City as a centerpiece. 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1861430 9-Sep-2017 17:59
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Would have been a great opportunity to begin removing religion from society.

 

If this god wants a big, uncomfortable and draughty building, why does he not simply magic a new one? Should be a piece of cake after creating the Earth and everything in it in 6 days. He, after all, allegedly created the quake in the first place.






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  Reply # 1861432 9-Sep-2017 18:02
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Oh come on now, that would require god to reveal himself and we know how shy he is.




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  Reply # 1861436 9-Sep-2017 18:12
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Fear not roosting pigeons - it will be months/years before you are evicted from the Cathedral...


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  Reply # 1861463 9-Sep-2017 18:32
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What a waste of money. Problem was that the church had it's arm twisted up it's back by the local politicians and do gooders. Best thing they could have done is give it to the council for a dollar and say it's your problem.




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  Reply # 1861496 9-Sep-2017 19:04
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I guess I'm a 'do gooder' then as I'm ecstatic about this news. Life's not fair, some people are gonna see this as a waste of money, others will bemoan the lost opportunity of a new building. Me, I see this as finally getting to keep one damned building that I like. I'm sick of seeing Christchurch being demoed and replaced with tilt slab. I'm drinking to the synod tonight.


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  Reply # 1861497 9-Sep-2017 19:12
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It is not either  or. eg It is not a Cathedral, or school lunches, as the source of funding come from totally different areas. 

 

It is a pity they didn't gift it to the city, so it could be used for other things. I think this is a good thing that it is being restored, as Chch has already lost a significant amount of heritage, and it is the icon of that city. A lot of what is being redeveloped in Chch is developer driven, so there have been a lot of missed opportunities. If they did rebuild it with a new one, then it is likely it wouldn't have been iconic, without spending significantly more than 100 million. Iconic church buildings are usually really expensive eg the Sagrada Familia

 

Also how much is that Stadium they are wanting to build down their going to cost? This is only a small percentage of that, and this cathedral is a tourist attraction, unlike a boutique stadium that is only going to hold about 25k people. I do question the need for expensive stadiums these days, with TV coverage the way it is. Also these sports bodies are well off, and look at what some of the players earn. Why can't they pay for them? 

 

In terms of school lunches, that is just an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff solution. We need to look at why they are needed, and solve the core problem. When I was at school we didn't have a problem if kids coming to school without food. Some of it comes back to the housing crisis, and poor families now having to spend significant more of their income on accommodation, and don't have as much spare money. 


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  Reply # 1861498 9-Sep-2017 19:13
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The Cathedral was a huge tourist draw to ChCh... Hopefully it will be again.


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  Reply # 1861501 9-Sep-2017 19:18
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blakamin:

 

The Cathedral was a huge tourist draw to ChCh... Hopefully it will be again.

 

 

 

 

I think that once it has been restored, people will be amazed that it was at one stage in the process of being demolished (deconstructed). It looks like the tower part of it has already gone. I just fear that all this time it has been left exposed to water, that it is going to need a lot more money spending on it.


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  Reply # 1861502 9-Sep-2017 19:20
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Fred99:

 

Only $25m committed by central govt.

 

$10m by council ("subject to public consultation")

 

 

 

 

15 of that is a suspended loan also. Only a $10m grant total from central


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  Reply # 1861538 9-Sep-2017 20:19
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I don't understand why people think a private organisation should spend it's money raising other peoples neglected kids.

 

 


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