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#242088 10-Oct-2018 12:11
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“Saturday was the best day in American politics since World War II,” Fischer declared. “I believe the demons of hell, under Satan’s direction, threw every single piece of weaponry, every single piece of firepower that they had, threw it into the battle to take out Brett Kavanaugh. They wanted him not just defeated, they wanted him destroyed. I believe it represented a victory of Jesus Christ over Satan and the powers of darkness and evil.”

 

 

Christians that don't live by the principles of Christianity... But hey, whatever makes money for them.





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  #2105514 10-Oct-2018 12:25
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Good lord. Words fail me




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  #2105516 10-Oct-2018 12:26
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MikeB4: Good lord. 

 

 

I see what you did there.





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  #2105518 10-Oct-2018 12:30
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I believe it actually is a kind of madness. The same kind that makes people join cults and drink kool-aid. It can't be reasoned with. It can't be debated rationally. It is a psychosis, in which all input from the real world is filtered through a distorting lens of fanatical insanity. The brains of people who think like this are damaged beyond repair. They can't be helped. The only hope is to contain them. Think of a zombie plague and a high wall.

 

 





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  #2105526 10-Oct-2018 12:40
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Nice title, careful you don't get banned 

 

/s


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  #2105531 10-Oct-2018 12:50
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msreef:

 

Nice title, careful you don't get banned 

 

/s

 

 

Ah,ah. No, not even funny.

 

Instead of barbs, discuss the topic. Do tell me, you don't think this kind of preaching is just crazy talk by people with self-interest?





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  #2105537 10-Oct-2018 12:56
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Rikkitic:

 

I believe it actually is a kind of madness. The same kind that makes people join cults and drink kool-aid. It can't be reasoned with. It can't be debated rationally. It is a psychosis, in which all input from the real world is filtered through a distorting lens of fanatical insanity. The brains of people who think like this are damaged beyond repair. They can't be helped. The only hope is to contain them. Think of a zombie plague and a high wall.

 

I agree.  I think some people  are predisposed to becoming zealots ( I also think reasonable people can be turned into zealots by traumatic experiences, but that's a different thing).  Religion seems to have a particular appeal for those types of people but then so do other causes.  They also like conspiracies.

 

For example... people loosening wheel-nuts on DoC workers vehicles over 1080.  Or vegans threatening to fire-bomb butchers.  Or people who undertake self-immolation ...

 

 





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  #2105538 10-Oct-2018 12:57
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freitasm:

 

msreef:

 

Nice title, careful you don't get banned 

 

/s

 

 

Ah,ah. No, not even funny.

 

Instead of barbs, discuss the topic. Do tell me, you don't think this kind of preaching is just crazy talk by people with self-interest?

 

 

 

 

Christian fundementalism is wide spread in the grass roots of Trumps support. Its this type of BS  that dangerously influences those persons. It makes the US future even more shakey. Trump is slowly but surely establishing an untouchability around himself and his intended dynasty.


 
 
 

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  #2105594 10-Oct-2018 13:37
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MikeB4:

 

Christian fundementalism is wide spread in the grass roots of Trumps support. Its this type of BS  that dangerously influences those persons. It makes the US future even more shakey. Trump is slowly but surely establishing an untouchability around himself and his intended dynasty.

 

 

That's a finite and shrinking demographic.  Sooner or later the GOP will realise it has to change to be a credible political force.  Prominent repubs realise(d) that already - McCain, Flake etc.





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  #2105619 10-Oct-2018 14:29
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Although I do find it a little reassuring that the item Mauricio linked to was from a "Right Wing Watch" organisation that aims to expose the "hard right" and they have 40,000 youtube subscribers,

 

While the group that is the original source has 800.....  :)


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  #2105650 10-Oct-2018 15:08
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wellygary:

 

Although I do find it a little reassuring that the item Mauricio linked to was from a "Right Wing Watch" organisation that aims to expose the "hard right" and they have 40,000 youtube subscribers,

 

While the group that is the original source has 800.....  :)

 

 

Don't be reassured.  Bryan Fisher is associated with the "American Family Association" with 180,000 paid subscriber members, and who run a network of 180 radio stations all across America.

 

I expect as they have their own website, with podcasts, live streaming etc, the evil world of YouTube isn't something they put a lot of effort in to.

 

 


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freitasm: Christians that don't live by the principles of Christianity... But hey, whatever makes money for them.

 

Was this in reference to the column (just trying to find it) or the video clip?


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  #2105664 10-Oct-2018 15:33
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Fred99:

 

wellygary:

 

Although I do find it a little reassuring that the item Mauricio linked to was from a "Right Wing Watch" organisation that aims to expose the "hard right" and they have 40,000 youtube subscribers,

 

While the group that is the original source has 800.....  :)

 

 

Don't be reassured.  Bryan Fisher is associated with the "American Family Association" with 180,000 paid subscriber members, and who run a network of 180 radio stations all across America.

 

I expect as they have their own website, with podcasts, live streaming etc, the evil world of YouTube isn't something they put a lot of effort in to.

 

 

180,000 out of 300 million is 0.06% if my maths is right. They have 1,000 people for each of their radio stations. 

 

For comparison, concert FM in NZ gets about 600,000 listeners across a week.





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MikeAqua:

 

Fred99:

 

wellygary:

 

Although I do find it a little reassuring that the item Mauricio linked to was from a "Right Wing Watch" organisation that aims to expose the "hard right" and they have 40,000 youtube subscribers,

 

While the group that is the original source has 800.....  :)

 

 

Don't be reassured.  Bryan Fisher is associated with the "American Family Association" with 180,000 paid subscriber members, and who run a network of 180 radio stations all across America.

 

I expect as they have their own website, with podcasts, live streaming etc, the evil world of YouTube isn't something they put a lot of effort in to.

 

 

180,000 out of 300 million is 0.06% if my maths is right. They have 1,000 people for each of their radio stations. 

 

For comparison, concert FM in NZ gets about 600,000 listeners across a week.

 

 

That's paid subscribers to AFA - not the radio stations which are obviously free.


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You are talking about a place where televangelists demand (and get) money to fund private jets. All doing the lord's work (whatever that is), of course. Do not assume anything where American religious nuts are concerned.

 

 





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  #2105688 10-Oct-2018 16:16
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Rikkitic:

 

You are talking about a place where televangelists demand (and get) money to fund private jets. All doing the lord's work (whatever that is), of course. Do not assume anything where American religious nuts are concerned.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We have that right here in Aotearoa. Destiny Church. 


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