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#196569 4-Jun-2016 18:32

Just noticed I had loaded the wrong debit card for my sons Google Play Music account and it was subsequently declined.

Sooooo ........... reloaded with the correct one (six months worth of subscription only) and I noticed that the charge and payment is as follows:-

Purchased from

Google Ireland Ltd.
Gordon House
Dublin 4 IE
353 1 436 1000

SO COME ON GOOGLE PAY YOUR TAX IN THIS COUNTRY!

If you want to take money from this country .... pay your tax like the rest of us!

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#1565777 4-Jun-2016 19:21

Did you pay tax in the purchase?

Or are you asking them to increase the price 15%

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#1565802 4-Jun-2016 20:27

mentalinc:

Did you pay tax in the purchase?

Or are you asking them to increase the price 15%

I probably paid (minimal) tax in Ireland (for use of a service over here).

And yes, GST @15% based on purchases from this country is fair, but I have since recalled that this is coming in soon.

I just hope that, in time, the Govt will reign in these multi-national companies that avoid paying tax in their countries of operation. Don't you?

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#1565803 4-Jun-2016 20:33

Until the government changes the law to plug this loophole, companies like Google and Apple will happily exploit it.

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#1565807 4-Jun-2016 20:44

Google, Apple, Microsoft, Adobe and others probably pay less tax in New Zealand than a lot of us around here.

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#1565906 5-Jun-2016 00:04

freitasm:

Google, Apple, Microsoft, Adobe and others probably pay less tax in New Zealand than a lot of us around here.

Unless of course you're wealthy enough to be able to exploit your own loopholes.

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#1566218 5-Jun-2016 23:16

DaveB:

mentalinc:

Did you pay tax in the purchase?

Or are you asking them to increase the price 15%

I probably paid (minimal) tax in Ireland (for use of a service over here).

And yes, GST @15% based on purchases from this country is fair, but I have since recalled that this is coming in soon.

I just hope that, in time, the Govt will reign in these multi-national companies that avoid paying tax in their countries of operation. Don't you?

Not really. I'm more concerned with my own tax than that of others and mostly slightly jealous they can afford better accountants than I can.

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#1566220 5-Jun-2016 23:17

Fred99:

freitasm:

Google, Apple, Microsoft, Adobe and others probably pay less tax in New Zealand than a lot of us around here.

Unless of course you're wealthy enough to be able to exploit your own loopholes.

You do not have to be that wealthy to use the tax laws to your advantage. Just entrepreneurial enough to work for yourself, mainly.

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#1566263 6-Jun-2016 03:49

freitasm:
Google, Apple, Microsoft, Adobe and others probably pay less tax in New Zealand than a lot of us around here.

Microsoft New Zealand reported a profit of $8.1 million on revenue of $78m, paying $3.9m in tax

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#1566267 6-Jun-2016 06:40

nathan:
freitasm:
Google, Apple, Microsoft, Adobe and others probably pay less tax in New Zealand than a lot of us around here.

Microsoft New Zealand reported a profit of $8.1 million on revenue of $78m, paying $3.9m in tax

There are some rich bastards around here then. ;)

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#1566383 6-Jun-2016 11:30

nathan:
freitasm:

Google, Apple, Microsoft, Adobe and others probably pay less tax in New Zealand than a lot of us around here.

Microsoft New Zealand reported a profit of $8.1 million on revenue of $78m, paying $3.9m in tax

But they are still not paying tax in NZ on a lot of the profit they make in NZ.

My Office365 sub is billed out of Singapore with no GST. There is a Singaporean GST number on the invoice, but like NZ , GST is zero rated on international services, and the company tax rate is about half that of NZ.

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#1566388 6-Jun-2016 11:37

Why is our tax so high?

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#1566418 6-Jun-2016 12:30

I for one don't see why they should pay tax here, they are not a New Zealand company, they pay tax in their own countries, We just choose to buy from them

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#1566423 6-Jun-2016 12:43

We need to be careful what we wish for here. If international taxation laws relating to the delivery of products & services between countries is changed across most jurisdictions, NZ businesses will be adversely effected due to our bias towards exporting. The negative effect of this might offset the additional taxes collected from major corporates.

This whole issue is not quite as simple as it looks.

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#1566463 6-Jun-2016 13:44

Yabanize:
I for one don't see why they should pay tax here, they are not a New Zealand company, they pay tax in their own countries, We just choose to buy from them

They often are an NZ registered company though, and are participating in our economy. What they are doing isn't moral IMO. It may however be legal, using loopholes in tax laws. But that doesn't mean it is right. Legal doesn't always mean moral.

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#1566464 6-Jun-2016 13:48

wsnz:
We need to be careful what we wish for here. If international taxation laws relating to the delivery of products & services between countries is changed across most jurisdictions, NZ businesses will be adversely effected due to our bias towards exporting. The negative effect of this might offset the additional taxes collected from major corporates.

This whole issue is not quite as simple as it looks.

I don't think so becuase we have tax agreements with other countries that prevent double taxation. It is all about companies using low tax countries to funnel their profits through, rather than what most NZ companies do. Eg using Irelands tax rate, when the company is based in the US, and the transaction occurs in NZ.

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