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# 128824 24-Aug-2013 18:41
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I just wrote a long winded post but then the browser hung and I'm buggered if I'm writing it all again. The TL;DR would have been:

Disillusioned with mainstream BDPs, looking for a high end unit to last several years and give me reliable networking features. Is the BDP-103 a smart purchase? Is there any way to get one for less than $850? Is it worth zone hard-modding? Can I expect the same level of firmware support here that the Americans etc. enjoy (heard different regions were handled by different teams)?

Interested in any general impressions from 103 owners, or suggestions for alternatives.



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  # 884022 24-Aug-2013 20:58
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I'm not an owner, but do have my nose up against the shop window, so to speak. Very well reviewed by all and sundry, and I haven't heard much in the way of reliability problems with 'em (dead drive mechanisms etc).

Out of interest, what has disillusioned you about the mainstream players? That's probably a good starting point as to whether an Oppo would satisfy.

... and FYI, you don't 'multizone' or 'zonefree' a blu ray player. It's 'region free' or 'multi region', since blu ray has regions, not zones. Picky, I know, but it's a common misnomer, and does lead to confusion as to what any given player is capable of :)



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  # 884032 24-Aug-2013 21:56
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sultanoswing: I'm not an owner, but do have my nose up against the shop window, so to speak. Very well reviewed by all and sundry, and I haven't heard much in the way of reliability problems with 'em (dead drive mechanisms etc).

Out of interest, what has disillusioned you about the mainstream players? That's probably a good starting point as to whether an Oppo would satisfy.


- Flimsy, poorly constructed
- Poor longevity
- Noisy. If it's not the disk mech, it's coil whine
- Hideous styling is all the rage at the moment (Sony and Panasonic I'm looking at YOU)
- Half-arsed format support
- No gapless playback of FLAC etc.
- Flaky network features, like Panasonic's CIFS implementation that seems to require a reboot of the server every day
- Poor connectivity (Panasonic, is a rear USB port so difficult? And I mean one that is actually useful, not 'camera only')


I researched the 103 only last year, but I ended up buying a TV instead, and now I can't remember anything except:

- Being suspicious about regional firmware variations/supply
- Noting the lack of ESATA port
- Cinavia
- Deciding that i'd rather have a US model and considering importing one, but I can't remember why
- Displeasure that CIFS was (and I notice it still is) an 'experimental feature' that might be removed.






 
 
 
 


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  # 884074 24-Aug-2013 23:48
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Fair enough - most of your negative points are anecdotally pretty accurate, as far as I can make out. Oppo ticks the box on all of those fronts.

In terms of cinavia, you're stuck with that - and no ISO support. Gotta pick up a second-hand 93 or 95 for that, and lose a couple of other of the latest features as a result. Someone was selling a 95, region-free modded, on Trademe last week - got snapped up pretty quickly for $899.

Trouble with US model is mainly the lack of any consumer guarantees act protection. If you're unlucky and it dies early, that's a lot of cash to cry over. Also, the prices, once you take into account shipping etc. are actually not that bad (in contrast to a lot of other inflated imported goods prices).

Good luck with your deliberations!


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  # 884139 25-Aug-2013 10:14
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hi, my first post.

I have a BDP-103. Can't recommend highly enough. Great picture and sound, the fastest disc load times and excellent build quality. Worth every dollar! It's even got me buying CD's again they sound so good.

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  # 884143 25-Aug-2013 10:33
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Hi you could try buying from here NZ based http://www.rapalloav.co.nz/oppo-bdp-103au-3d-blu-ray-disc-player-au-nz-edition.html have bought some things in the past and the support was great.




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  # 884156 25-Aug-2013 11:06
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OPPO has been officially imported by International Dynamics for a few years now.

There website lists NZ dealers

http://www.internationaldynamics.co.nz/

If you are connecting the BDP via HDMI then the 103 is a superb choice.

The only iffy aspect is using wireless networking to stream media, otherwise there is nothing to complain about.

As for whether to get the hardware multi-region mod - in most cases no, as BD region coding is much less restrictive than the DVD scheme, many BDs are already region-free.

However if you have a regular diet of region locked BDs then look at either the mod ($300) or buy a cheap ,multi-region BDP like the Toshiba BDX3200Ky or equivalent.

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  # 885017 26-Aug-2013 22:32
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Looks like that Oppo BDP-95 is up for sale on trademe now*:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/dvd-players-vcrs/dvd-players/standard/auction-631182222.htm


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  # 885020 26-Aug-2013 22:37
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Or... a lot less and get the Toshiba BDX3200KY 3D BD Player from JBHiFi. It can be set to be no-region (DVD) or switchable region (BD).

I posted about it here.




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  # 885021 26-Aug-2013 22:42
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Whilst I also support the concept of cheapo region-free players (and own one myself), the OP specifically asked about higher end stuff because of disillusionment with said cheapos.

JB has bailed out on the Toshiba players it seems, but that's probably no bad thing since at $189, you can get the same player (differently badged e.g. Veon, laser, Audiosonic) for a lot less elsewhere (Warehouse, Kmart, PB Tech, wiseguys).

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  # 885052 26-Aug-2013 23:05
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I have had 3 Oppo Players. I would buy another in a heart beat. I got all of mine from the USA because I was there or someone I knew was coming back and was able to get me one. I had a drive fail, and I was lucky enough to be heading to the US to get the replacement part at the same time, as they wouldn't ship internationally (which is fine I knew what I was getting into). I had some trouble getting them to ship to a hotel as it was against the policy and I had to ring and speak to a supervisor to get across the line, but they did it. Replaced it myself. I also region unlocked my unit by buying parts from ebay and that was simple as well.

We are going in March, it's quite likely I'll bring the latest one back and sell my current one. Nothing wrong with it, but I can usually sell my unit here for most of what I pay to buy them in the US.

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  # 885076 27-Aug-2013 00:13
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I purchased an Oppo BDP-95 from Amazon (NZ$840 landed) back in 2010.  Amazon also sort the import GST etc , I also got the bluraychip dk hardware region free mod.  There was no official Oppo distributor here back then.
I also cannot recommend them enough, has been a solid performer no issues whatsoever and firmware updates are timely.  Region mod is fantastic since I frequently get Bluray movies from Amazon, it also has firmware updates to keep up with the Oppo.



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