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#143521 17-Apr-2014 13:22
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Hi everybody,

I was thinking a little while ago, is it legal to rip a dvd once, and watch it on my OWN device?

Eg: I own the dvd of Tron: Legacy. Can I then Rip it to my computer, then watch it instead of paying the $10.00 again to watch it on my devices? Let's say I wanted to watch it on my Android Device for example.

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  #1026855 17-Apr-2014 13:26
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No, this is completely illegal in NZ for anything other than music - music was somewhat recently relaxed so that you can rip it once for each device, but any ripping of any kind of blu-rays\dvds even if you own them, is illegal. 

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  #1026857 17-Apr-2014 13:27
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No, it is not legal.

However it is pretty unlikely you are going to get the FBI battering down your door and confiscating all your stuff if you do it.

 
 
 
 


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  #1026860 17-Apr-2014 13:30
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Note: I agree with the above; and while it may be illegal, I certainly wouldn't consider it unethical unless you're ripping then selling the originals... 

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  #1026890 17-Apr-2014 14:18
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The law is an ass.  You've bought the DVD so you have paid for the right to watch it as often as you want.  Does the law assume that any ripping is done so the content  can then be distributed at the financial detriment of the copyright holder?




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  #1026896 17-Apr-2014 14:28
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The rights holders are the key, even with the change that allowed ripping of music CD's it is only permitted if the rights holder has allowed it in the terms and conditions. 

At least a lot of DVD's are now coming with a extra copy to allow electronic storage.




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  #1026901 17-Apr-2014 14:41
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Ok, thanks

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  #1026902 17-Apr-2014 14:44
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KiwiNZ: The rights holders are the key, even with the change that allowed ripping of music CD's it is only permitted if the rights holder has allowed it in the terms and conditions. 

At least a lot of DVD's are now coming with a extra copy to allow electronic storage.


Some of those tho are time limited.....  was quite annoyed that when I bought Inception, that the box advertised BR, DVD and digital copy - in small print, the digital copy had expired a year earlier. Thankfully I had only paid $10 for it and could rip my own digital copy if needed......

Why do they time limit digital copies, its fricking annoying.





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  #1026903 17-Apr-2014 14:46
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xpd:
KiwiNZ: The rights holders are the key, even with the change that allowed ripping of music CD's it is only permitted if the rights holder has allowed it in the terms and conditions. 

At least a lot of DVD's are now coming with a extra copy to allow electronic storage.


Some of those tho are time limited.....  was quite annoyed that when I bought Inception, that the box advertised BR, DVD and digital copy - in small print, the digital copy had expired a year earlier. Thankfully I had only paid $10 for it and could rip my own digital copy if needed......

Why do they time limit digital copies, its fricking annoying.



Agree, if they are going to time bomb them it should be encoded to do so say 12 months after first install. The packaging should clearly state that as a condition




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  #1026913 17-Apr-2014 15:06
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Permanent format shifting is only legal for audio in NZ not audio visual (movies, tv).

Temporary format shifting (time shifting) is legal for radio and tv (recording to watch later), in theory you're not supposed to keep the copy forever.

The law moves very slowly and is out of date, I doubt anyone has any real ethical issue with format shifting a blueray you purchased to an iso or x264 file for convenience for personal use.

Of course people naturally love to share and that's where the problem comes in: a la torrent sites, megaupload, rapidshare etc.

In practice regular people don't care much for intellectual technicalities, if there isn't cheap/easy/working on demand local digital distribution people will route around the problem online, end of story.

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  #1026941 17-Apr-2014 15:25
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sidefx: Note: I agree with the above; and while it may be illegal, I certainly wouldn't consider it unethical unless you're ripping then selling the originals... 


And that right there is why the law needs to change. None of this 'oh but we won't enforce it, so don't worry' BS. If a law is not intended to be enforced, then it should not be on the books.




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  #1026943 17-Apr-2014 15:29
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KiwiNZ: The rights holders are the key, even with the change that allowed ripping of music CD's it is only permitted if the rights holder has allowed it in the terms and conditions. 

At least a lot of DVD's are now coming with a extra copy to allow electronic storage.


The 'rights holders' only have rights because they are granted by the law. There's no real reason the law can't be changed other than that the people who write the laws won't do it. I'm feeling charitable today; I'll assume that's because they don't understand them themselves, rather than because they're actively in bed with Big Media.




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  #1026947 17-Apr-2014 15:38
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Funny how no one ever includes the copyright of us photographers when they write laws....!





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  #1026993 17-Apr-2014 16:51
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SkyTV has to get something in return for all that money they donated to politicians.

Strange how my employer says I have to hand in to my manager any gifts worth more than $10 for fear I will be influenced but politicians it's $25000


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SaltyNZ:
KiwiNZ: The rights holders are the key, even with the change that allowed ripping of music CD's it is only permitted if the rights holder has allowed it in the terms and conditions. 

At least a lot of DVD's are now coming with a extra copy to allow electronic storage.


The 'rights holders' only have rights because they are granted by the law. There's no real reason the law can't be changed other than that the people who write the laws won't do it. I'm feeling charitable today; I'll assume that's because they don't understand them themselves, rather than because they're actively in bed with Big Media.


I think with the politicians its a case of...

1. They don't understand
2. They don't care




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  #1027045 17-Apr-2014 18:17
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KiwiNZ:
SaltyNZ:
KiwiNZ: The rights holders are the key, even with the change that allowed ripping of music CD's it is only permitted if the rights holder has allowed it in the terms and conditions. 

At least a lot of DVD's are now coming with a extra copy to allow electronic storage.


The 'rights holders' only have rights because they are granted by the law. There's no real reason the law can't be changed other than that the people who write the laws won't do it. I'm feeling charitable today; I'll assume that's because they don't understand them themselves, rather than because they're actively in bed with Big Media.


I think with the politicians its a case of...

1. They don't understand
2. They don't care


If we believe that they don't care, isn't that a really good reason to change? I wouldn't hand my kids over to a babysitter who didn't understand or care. I don't want such a person running the country either.




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