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#25811 2-Sep-2008 13:52
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Hi I have been looking to buy this card: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/ so I can connect it via HDMI to my mysky hdi so I can record sports and stuff. Will this card work or will the HDCP protection mean I wont be able to recieve any video input???

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  #161541 2-Sep-2008 14:02
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From the techspecs page



The HDMI standard sometimes includes copy protection encryption, such as commonly found on DVD players and some brands of set top boxes. When connected to these copy protected sources, the HDMI specification defines that Intensity cards cannot capture.


I think this answers that question for you.

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  #161542 2-Sep-2008 14:05
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DarkKnight08: Hi I have been looking to buy this card: http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/ so I can connect it via HDMI to my mysky hdi so I can record sports and stuff. Will this card work or will the HDCP protection mean I wont be able to recieve any video input???


Take a look at the techspecs page  - http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/techspecs/

It won't work with any channels that have enabled HDCP




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  #161551 2-Sep-2008 14:23
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Are there any other cards on the market that would work Sky HDi?

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  #161560 2-Sep-2008 14:56
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DarkKnight08: Are there any other cards on the market that would work Sky HDi?


I would doubt it. The whole concept of HDCP is to stop people from doing exactly what you want to do.

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  #161584 2-Sep-2008 15:52
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You could always buy an HDCP stripper....

But with the cost quickly mounting, what exactly is it that you want to copy?  It has to be either sports or movies as they are the only programs Sky have in HD (excluding TV3 since you can get this with a DVB-T card and record direct).  If its movies then wouldn't buying a Blu-ray version be easier/cheaper/quicker?

Or is there something else you are trying to achieve?

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  #161612 2-Sep-2008 16:47
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The easiest way to get sky onto a HTPC in its proper format is to use the smartcard and tune in directly. There is a whole thread on it here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=84&TopicId=21481

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  #161630 2-Sep-2008 17:18
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timbosan: You could always buy an HDCP stripper....

But with the cost quickly mounting, what exactly is it that you want to copy?  It has to be either sports or movies as they are the only programs Sky have in HD (excluding TV3 since you can get this with a DVB-T card and record direct).  If its movies then wouldn't buying a Blu-ray version be easier/cheaper/quicker?

Or is there something else you are trying to achieve?


I want to record the Warriors entire season next year, and also the Rugby League World Cup in a few months which will be in HD. Id like to record and save them to my hard drive so I can view them later without worrying about them taking 10% disk space on My Sky HDi. I also would like to record the Premier League in HD and the upcomming NZ vs AUS test series in Aussie and the 5 ODI's.  I love sports in HD and its a waste just watching them once it would be nice if My Sky had a 1 TB hard drive but until it does we have to find solutions to record our precious sporting memories in HD.

 
 
 
 


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  #161635 2-Sep-2008 17:42
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Well you might just be in luck then. Sky don't enable HDCP on their Sports channels at present, athough this might change




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  #161673 2-Sep-2008 19:42
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Yeah, you could get a card which can capture component, i can confirm that the tennis yesterday was running in 720p over component.

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  #161935 3-Sep-2008 19:07
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Can someone recommend a good "cheap" card that can record component?

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  #161936 3-Sep-2008 19:13
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DarkKnight08: Can someone recommend a good "cheap" card that can record component?


The Hauppauge HD-PVR is the only unit on the market that can do component. It's also not cheap, expect to pay somewhere around US$250 for one.



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  #161964 3-Sep-2008 21:03
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sbiddle:
DarkKnight08: Are there any other cards on the market that would work Sky HDi?


I would doubt it. The whole concept of HDCP is to stop people from doing exactly what you want to do.


Exactly, and talking of stripping HDCP is breaking copy-protection.  I'm sure this sort of stuff shouldn't be discussed on Geekzone?




 

 

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  #161966 3-Sep-2008 21:11
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I have Mysky Hdi. Prior to Hdi I had mysky 1 and used to archive stuff to a DVD recorder. This has now blown up. Can anyone recommend the minimum specs HTPC hardware I would need to capture S-Video to an HTPC from the HDi as it sounds as though HD archiving is out of the question....

 

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  #161976 3-Sep-2008 21:43
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ZollyMonsta:
sbiddle:
DarkKnight08: Are there any other cards on the market that would work Sky HDi?


I would doubt it. The whole concept of HDCP is to stop people from doing exactly what you want to do.


Exactly, and talking of stripping HDCP is breaking copy-protection.  I'm sure this sort of stuff shouldn't be discussed on Geekzone?

I've seen people talk about their backed up their DVD collection on their HTPC, which is also breaking copy protection. Just IMO as long as no specific products are mentioned/linked or suggestions to use it, then it fits in the borderline section.

Also out of pure interest, any information on what the filesystem(s) of PVR hard drives are? Not just the HDi but things like Tivo or just your average DVD recorder.

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  #161981 3-Sep-2008 21:53
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Tivo runs a linix filesystem... files are in a proprietry .ty format.

PVRs that require a smart card will have content encrypted, so no point trying to load it on anything as you won't be able to do anything with it (other than waste your time trying).




 

 

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