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Topic # 34828 30-May-2009 01:03
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I just got their monthly newsletter and I noticed this



Delivery is already as fast as it can be via snail mail

Unless they start distributing the discs from multiple locations across the country then I can't see what else this can be.

I'm just speculating here, since Fatso is now owned by Sky they definitely have the assets to pull it off. They could re-brand and re-launch Sky Online under Fatso but make it 100 times better (i.e. think Netflix) and with TVNZ rolling out TiVo later this year, the timing couldn't be better.

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  Reply # 219637 30-May-2009 02:20
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Yeah, I was frequently getting things in my po box on the way to tech in the morning after they had sent them out from getting my returns back the night before.

I found if I got them into the mailbox at tech after "watching" them at tech I could get another lot of movies the next day quite often. But it seemed that after a while of that they started to throttle the rate you get them.

If they were paying the retail of $1 to post a C5 envelope then that would be over the subscription price in mail alone if I got 15 roundtrips done in a month.




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  Reply # 219640 30-May-2009 02:31
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Well Sky in the UK has just signed a deal with Microsoft to start offering Sky TV programs to the Xbox, hopefully something follows suit here.

Fingers crossed TelstraClear get involved and make it zero-rated for us cable users.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 220649 1-Jun-2009 22:46
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How frakkin' awesome would that be, I don't know that it could stream anywhere near the quality of Blu-ray, but hey that's a given.

Would the local NZ broadband infrastructure support the bandwidth needed to stream these movies? Would people be willing to shell out for the extra data for the purposes of streaming?

I just wish that my local vid store would stock a bigger range of Blu-ray.
The trouble I found with the snail mail-fatso side of things was that it seemed everyone was wanting Blu-Ray at the same time I was, and I would always get some movie way down on my list because it was on DVD. I don't think I can ever go back to DVD, or SD TV for that matter.

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  Reply # 220699 2-Jun-2009 08:41
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I suspect that Fatso / Sky will do this at the same time that TiVo launches to try and tie it up first..




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  Reply # 220713 2-Jun-2009 09:24
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I would like to see a partnership with Microsoft and having Fatso on Media Centre - like Netflix has announced in the U.S.

Then it would be really nice.

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  Reply # 223923 11-Jun-2009 11:54
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With NZ's broadband download charges I doubt downloading will be an option for 90% of broadband customers until all ISP's bring in free national traffic again.

Even if some ISP's did free Fatso/Sky/Tivo traffic I will not move ISP unless I get more interntional traffic for less money. I would also assume a lot of people will feel the sameway.

I can see a lot of Parent's getting stung with large download bills if we don't get free traffic and the kids start downloading.

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  Reply # 223935 11-Jun-2009 12:49
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With NZ's broadband download charges I doubt downloading will be an option for 90% of broadband customers until all ISP's bring in free national traffic again.

Even if some ISP's did free Fatso/Sky/Tivo traffic I will not move ISP unless I get more interntional traffic for less money. I would also assume a lot of people will feel the sameway.

I can see a lot of Parent's getting stung with large download bills if we don't get free traffic and the kids start downloading.

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It wouldnt launch without some form of free trafic to the site, wether it be through the ozone or equivalent. People need to realise that free national traffic is a thing of the past, its not coming back! However with isp's offering free local traffic to certain sites its a good alternative. Isps are very reluctant to bring back free local traffic for several reasons, one being that it will bring back the days of DC++ local traffic hubs, private local nz torrent sites, before you know it local traffic will have trippeld, because of people downloading there linux iso's.. ;)  Local traffic is not free, sure its not expensive either but it does cost isp's money to route there traffic through other isp's. I remember an old xnet or slingshot plan that had local traffic at 1/10th of international traffic, so 10gbs of national traffic would cost you 1gb of international traffic, that was a good way of doing it and should possibly be looked at again.

If parents were to monitor there kids internet usage (perhaps there own too) and rein in the rampant piracy they wouldn't be facing big over usage charges. Im starting to laugh at all the people complaining about large international data caps etc, more for less, more for less!! Its not how business works, they are there to turn a profit, and lets face it theres not going to be any major changes in data caps in the near future no matter how much the public whines about it.. If you want large data caps then you best be prepared to pay a premium for it.
You find its people that live on torrent sites downloading said "linux iso's" that are the loudest about data caps not being big enough..

20gb of international should be pleanty for your avg joe household, if your going over that then someone is almost certainly doing something dodgy.. note i said average joe household, not someone doing online backups etc etc

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  Reply # 223963 11-Jun-2009 14:12
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zero metering needs to come through for ALL ISP's before any of these streaming type things can really take off. I'm damned if i'm going to use half my cap up on this sort of stuff.

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Reply # 223971 11-Jun-2009 14:27
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allstarnz: zero metering needs to come through for ALL ISP's before any of these streaming type things can really take off. I'm damned if i'm going to use half my cap up on this sort of stuff.


Assuming a lot of people say they wouldn't want Fatso downloads (or any legal downloads) unless it's "zero metering". I'd put a bet that a lot of these people are already downloading TV series and movies anyway through torrents, without "zero metering".

So here's my question: what is the difference of using your caps for "illegal" downloads and not wanting to use it for "legal" downloads?

(Note I am not saying you allstarnz does it, but this is the kind of thing that crossed my mind when I read your reply).





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  Reply # 223975 11-Jun-2009 14:31
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20gb of international traffic is not enough thesedays. YouTube now allows videos up to 1gb in size and it supports high definition video too and there are quite a few of them there. movies on iTunes are about 1-2gb. you do not have to be doing anything dodgy to use more than 20gb a month. wouldn't all isps peering mean local traffic would be free?

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  Reply # 224007 11-Jun-2009 15:06
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freitasm: Assuming a lot of people say they wouldn't want Fatso downloads (or any legal downloads) unless it's "zero metering". I'd put a bet that a lot of these people are already downloading TV series and movies anyway through torrents, without "zero metering".

So here's my question: what is the difference of using your caps for "illegal" downloads and not wanting to use it for "legal" downloads?

(Note I am not saying you allstarnz does it, but this is the kind of thing that crossed my mind when I read your reply).

I guess the difference is you only have to pay once.  So you download an illegal movie, it's free and you only pay for the traffic, or you pay for a movie service and you get free downloads.  It's not so cool to have to pay for the service AND the download.  I'd never download a movie on iTunes for example, you pay whatever it is for the movie and then an extra few dollars for the data.

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  Reply # 224010 11-Jun-2009 15:11
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I don't mind paying. They are separate services. One is the content and the other is the transport. Different providers, different services.





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  Reply # 224016 11-Jun-2009 15:21
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Good for you, but you asked for the reason why people dont mind paying for their illegal downloads but wouldn't use a service like this unless it was zero-rated. I gave you the most obvious reason, which you dismissed. So I wonder why you asked the question?

I'm assuming you don't download illegal TV shows/movies either, so your opinion doesn't really count does it?

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  Reply # 224018 11-Jun-2009 15:24
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No, I not dismissing it, just extending it a bit more... All reasons are good reasons, I am just curious.

For example if you buy a DVD on Amazon you have to pay shipping too. Compare the "postal delivery" with "net delivery" and does it make sense?





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