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# 127183 1-Aug-2013 18:29
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I have $2000 to spend on a laptop right now!!!! I cannot find a retailer in NZ who can sell me what I want!!!

MUST HAVE Windows 7....

Minimum Specs below...

Intel Haswell Core i7-4700MQ 2.4GHz 16GB 2TB HD 17.3" FHD-LED 1920x1080 GT740M 2GB Graphics BluRayRW 64bit 6Cell BT GLan HDMI USB3 Webcam WiFiN Windows 7

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  # 870196 1-Aug-2013 18:35
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Have you tried pricespy? It has got some pretty good filtering options.




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  # 870197 1-Aug-2013 18:39
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Why is windows 7 a must have? (don't even say the start menu US$5 can add it back)

You don't "build" laptops you buy what the vendors make.




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  # 870203 1-Aug-2013 18:50
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Those specs for that price is doable but they all come with Win 8 by default, you could get Win 7 and install it yourself or ask the store to install Win 7 for you as an additional service.

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=415570
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=415538
http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=415582




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  # 870205 1-Aug-2013 18:53
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I never bought Windows Vista!!!! and I will not buy Windows 8 ever!!!! It's no wonder PC & Laptop sales % wise are so far down... when stupid vendors push junk like Microsoft's Windows 8 onto customers that don't want it! What dumb business that is....basically up the customer.... take it or leave it?




 


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  # 870209 1-Aug-2013 18:56
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Hmmm.... windows 8 is a pretty damn good operating system. You obviously have issues with it. In that case grab an HP and downgrade it to windows 7.

Instructions are here:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2015107/downgrading-from-windows-8-to-7-what-you-need-to-know.html

Have you looked at macbooks?




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BazNZ: I never bought Windows Vista!!!! and I will not buy Windows 8 ever!!!! It's no wonder PC & Laptop sales % wise are so far down... when stupid vendors push junk like Microsoft's Windows 8 onto customers that don't want it! What dumb business that is....basically up the customer.... take it or leave it?


Have you actually given Windows 8 a serious try?

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  # 870217 1-Aug-2013 19:05
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PC penetration and subsequently Windows 8 penetration has been declining for reasons other than Win8 as an OS. That is another discussion to have though.

I really suggest you give Win8 a go. Start8 or similar will give you pretty much a windows 7 interface.




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  # 870218 1-Aug-2013 19:06
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I appreciate all the suggestions and links guys...thank you...but my issue is why should I have to spend more $$$ buying Windows 7 and paying even more $$$ getting someone to install it? Why can't I go into a retailer and have that option? I'm sure if a Laptop vendor produced Windows 7 notebooks the sales would be up 25%-50% against any competition !




 


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  # 870221 1-Aug-2013 19:08
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Because old versions of things are phased out and not sold with new hardware.



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  # 870224 1-Aug-2013 19:11
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Ragnor:
BazNZ: I never bought Windows Vista!!!! and I will not buy Windows 8 ever!!!! It's no wonder PC & Laptop sales % wise are so far down... when stupid vendors push junk like Microsoft's Windows 8 onto customers that don't want it! What dumb business that is....basically up the customer.... take it or leave it?


Have you actually given Windows 8 a serious try?
To be honest Ragnor...no... I got too frustrated! I went into PB Tech and got a salesman to demo a few things and got tired and frustated just watching him!




 




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  # 870226 1-Aug-2013 19:13
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Ragnor: Because old versions of things are phased out and not sold with new hardware.
Yes but Windows 7 is hardly old is it?




 


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  # 870227 1-Aug-2013 19:13
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Apple only sell the latest version of their OS on their hardware as do most android vendors as does microsoft.

You are not going to be able to buy a laptop with windows 7 preinstalled unless you go ex-lease and old hardware. Build a bridge. Move on. Sorry, that is life.

You can't buy a Mac with Snow Leopard on it.

Either buy a laptop with win 8 and downgrade or don't buy anything at all.




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  # 870232 1-Aug-2013 19:15
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Windows 8 is fine once you've installed "Classic Start Menu".

Given that Haswell based laptops have only just started appearing in the last few weeks, the options are not massive.

PC and laptop sales are down due to tablets, it's got very little to do with Win8.

The vendors aren't "stupid". The vast majority of the buying public will think that newer = better, and they get very good deals with Microsoft to have their OS preloaded. Plus, Microsoft probably isn't giving them the choice any more.

@hairy1 - You won't get those sort of specs until mid-range Macbook Pro models, which are both well >$2000 and only 15", and I'm guessing he doesn't want an OS X system, or want to pay for a separate copy of Windows anyway.

Quite enjoying the 12 hour battery life from my Haswell Macbook Air though...







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  # 870234 1-Aug-2013 19:17
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BazNZ:
Ragnor: Because old versions of things are phased out and not sold with new hardware.
Yes but Windows 7 is hardly old is it?


It's just over 4 years, which as far as OS's go, is getting pretty old.





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  # 870262 1-Aug-2013 19:41
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BazNZ: MUST HAVE Windows 7....



Good luck.

Windows7 support isn't available with a lot of Haswell machines because manufacturers haven't bothered with Windows7 drivers.


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