GCSB declines Spark’s proposal to use Huawei 5G equipment

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#2169700 29-Jan-2019 15:59

A bit odd considering the tappy case was closed in 2017: https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/t-mobile-wins-4-8m-ruling-against-huawei-over-alleged-theft-smartphone-testing-robot-tappy

Sounds like more trade-war rubbish.

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#2173147 5-Feb-2019 03:48

Does the Rural Connectivity Group use Huawei gear?

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#2176148 11-Feb-2019 08:00

see huawei is running ads trying to get the public to side with Huawei "5G without huawei is like rugby without New Zealand" - https://www.huawei.com/facts/huawei-new-zealand.html

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#2181973 18-Feb-2019 13:08

UK government clears Huawei 5G kit to be used

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12204757

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#2181980 18-Feb-2019 13:11

That just makes it look even more like little NZ was pressured by Aus and US.

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#2181983 18-Feb-2019 13:18

jonb:

That just makes it look even more like little NZ was pressured by Aus and US.

It always seemed that way, we are in Five Eyes, USA vs China and so on. Who do we support? USA who wants to continue dominating the world or China who wants to expand its influence globally. We actually want both to be big and powerful to fend off the other

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#2181985 18-Feb-2019 13:19

As the article points out, there is very unlikely to be a blanket ban on Huawei.

Generally the GCSB will come out and say, we are very concerned about XYZ and due to that you need to stop using this kit as you have designed.

The ISP/Telco can then go away think about how to mitigate XYZ and come up with a new design.

I would be surprised if Spark can't work around the GCSB concerns with clever policy and clever design, which would then allow them to use their kit. The article says they have submitted a new proposal, so I would expect them to have mitigated the GCSB original concerns which should result in approval to proceed.

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#2181988 18-Feb-2019 13:27

tdgeek:

jonb:

That just makes it look even more like little NZ was pressured by Aus and US.

It always seemed that way, we are in Five Eyes, USA vs China and so on. Who do we support? USA who wants to continue dominating the world or China who wants to expand its influence globally. We actually want both to be big and powerful to fend off the other

UK is also in the 5 eyes - GCHQ

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#2181989 18-Feb-2019 13:27

Sounddude:

As the article points out, there is very unlikely to be a blanket ban on Huawei.

Generally the GCSB will come out and say, we are very concerned about XYZ and due to that you need to stop using this kit as you have designed.

The ISP/Telco can then go away think about how to mitigate XYZ and come up with a new design.

I would be surprised if Spark can't work around the GCSB concerns with clever policy and clever design, which would then allow them to use their kit. The article says they have submitted a new proposal, so I would expect them to have mitigated the GCSB original concerns which should result in approval to proceed.

As long as the issue is just mitigation and not actually only about USA prodding China, this being one of a few fronts in action at the moment. Its becoming a "warm" war as distinct to the past cold war decades ago

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#2182018 18-Feb-2019 14:39

Well Scotland Yard (I would imagine be involved?) have cleared Huawei and they are fine to install 5G equipment in the UK ...

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#2184047 20-Feb-2019 06:37

Surprised this wasn't posted yet. The plot thickens.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110688957/ardern-no-final-huawei-5g-decision

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#2184049 20-Feb-2019 06:57

BarTender: Surprised this wasn't posted yet. The plot thickens.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110688957/ardern-no-final-huawei-5g-decision

Spying aside -

When the GCSB first announced this, it immediately became clear that this was going to hammer relations with China. The government's response had always been "no decision has been made yet". So I don't see this as "news", as the government had always said that.

The thing with this government though (very rare with Key and Clark's time) is that the head usually has no idea what the hands and feet are doing until the media tells them, and then the head always backtracks or goes into some form of PR/damage control mode.

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#2184056 20-Feb-2019 07:22

Batman:

BarTender: Surprised this wasn't posted yet. The plot thickens.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/110688957/ardern-no-final-huawei-5g-decision

Spying aside -

When the GCSB first announced this, it immediately became clear that this was going to hammer relations with China. The government's response had always been "no decision has been made yet". So I don't see this as "news", as the government had always said that.

The thing with this government though (very rare with Key and Clark's time) is that the head usually has no idea what the hands and feet are doing until the media tells them, and then the head always backtracks or goes into some form of PR/damage control mode.

Nah. The GCSB didnt announce this, the US did, using the GCSB's voice, same as the other countries involved. We and they are just pawns. UK has opted out of the US games, for obvious reasons.

What did this Govt not know and learn from the media? Do they have an office in the GCSB or D.C.??