GCSB declines Spark’s proposal to use Huawei 5G equipment

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#2140410 6-Dec-2018 10:17

hmm ... i own a huawei mobile phone.

admittedly i refused to join any of their huawei software/network and did not register my finger print!

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#2140412 6-Dec-2018 10:18

Lias:

So new twist (Link courtesy of Peter L of Peter Reader fame who posted it to the ISIG mailing list this morning)

The UK has now blocked Huawei from being part of the 5g core, and even further is now removing any Huawei equipment from the 3/4g core network too.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-46453425

Afraid of the Johnny English scenario?

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#2140421 6-Dec-2018 10:34

Batman:

hmm ... i own a huawei mobile phone.

admittedly i refused to join any of their huawei software/network and did not register my finger print!

If you touched the sensor it already has your fingerprint.

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#2140472 6-Dec-2018 11:59

Coil:
Batman:

hmm ... i own a huawei mobile phone.

admittedly i refused to join any of their huawei software/network and did not register my finger print!

If you touched the sensor it already has your fingerprint.

And the 4 cameras have been recording 24/7 too

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#2140475 6-Dec-2018 12:02

Well, that escalated quickly: Canadian authorities arrest CFO of Huawei Technologies at US request.

This seems to be over Iran sanctions violations.

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#2140480 6-Dec-2018 12:12

freitasm:
Well, that escalated quickly: Canadian authorities arrest CFO of Huawei Technologies at US request.

This seems to be over Iran sanctions violations.

Am I reading that it's all politically motivated?

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#2140484 6-Dec-2018 12:18

Not necessarily. The USA takes sanctions very seriously. They could frame it as a criminal activity.

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#2140497 6-Dec-2018 12:56

I dont see why NZ cant start making its own equipment

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#2140511 6-Dec-2018 13:06

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Not necessarily. The USA takes sanctions very seriously. They could frame it as a criminal activity.

I see. But seeing that they are not putting any sanctions on Saudi anytime soon, Huawei should now sell stuff in Saudi instead.

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#2140520 6-Dec-2018 13:30

freitasm:

Well, that escalated quickly: Canadian authorities arrest CFO of Huawei Technologies at US request.

This seems to be over Iran sanctions violations.

And a non-paywalled version on NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/05/business/huawei-cfo-arrest-canada-extradition.html

So really it's about the trade violations for selling to Iran.

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#2140521 6-Dec-2018 13:32

Batman:
freitasm:

Not necessarily. The USA takes sanctions very seriously. They could frame it as a criminal activity.

I see. But seeing that they are not putting any sanctions on Saudi anytime soon, Huawei should now sell stuff in Saudi instead.

Given their buddy-buddy relationship with the US, why would Saudi do anything with Huawei...??

.....and just to make the story even more interesting, Huawei's CFO is the Company founder's Daughter....

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#2140524 6-Dec-2018 13:35

TwoSeven: I dont see why NZ cant start making its own equipment

Yeah, Spark, Voda and 2D should just get a stack of Ettus USRP and run OpenBTS and tell those hardware providers to stick it.... as running a mobile network with SMS/SMPP interconnect, roaming capabilities and band steering is easy open source hardware and software so anyone can do it.

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#2140527 6-Dec-2018 13:38

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Batman:
freitasm:

Not necessarily. The USA takes sanctions very seriously. They could frame it as a criminal activity.

I see. But seeing that they are not putting any sanctions on Saudi anytime soon, Huawei should now sell stuff in Saudi instead.

Given their buddy-buddy relationship with the US, why would Saudi do anything with Huawei...??

.....and just to make the story even more interesting, Huawei's CFO is the Company founder's Daughter....

Why should Saudi care about the US? They are the ones with the money, they can buy from whomever the help they like

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#2140604 6-Dec-2018 14:37

And not only are BT banning Huawei from their 5G network, they are removing them from their core 4G network!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bt-group-huawei-tech/bt-to-remove-huawei-equipment-from-its-core-4g-network-ft-idUSKBN1O40ED

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#2140629 6-Dec-2018 15:15

BarTender:
TwoSeven: I dont see why NZ cant start making its own equipment

Yeah, Spark, Voda and 2D should just get a stack of Ettus USRP and run OpenBTS and tell those hardware providers to stick it.... as running a mobile network with SMS/SMPP interconnect, roaming capabilities and band steering is easy open source hardware and software so anyone can do it.

I actually meant develop their own brand of [Enterprise grade] telecommunications electronics and software - not open source.

I think the local electronics companies could do with a boost from the goverment to help them develop the skills and talent and enterprise experience needed to develop such an internationally competitive product- even if it would take a few decades.

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