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Topic # 124536 11-Jul-2013 09:20
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Hi,

I have been playing DCUO (online super-hero MMO) on the PS3 for about 10 or so months, mostly trouble free.  About 1 month ago I started to experience extreme lag (I find myself three or four minutes behind everybody else - i.e I get a message that the boss is dead, but I haven't even reached that part of the fight) when in a raid (8 man group), and some open-world parts of alerts (4 man group).

At first I thought it was my PS3, so I replaced the hdd - this solved my rendering issue, but the lag persisted.  I then suspected it was the actual game as a new DLC was released around the time I noticed the lag.  Seeing as nobody else in my league is having problems, I started to look at my internet connection.  speedtest.net is showing a ping of about 350 - 400ms from my PC to Amsterdam (where the EU DCUO servers are)....from memory that gave me a rating of "D" Frown

So I started to poke around, and ran a trace route - results follow:

Tracing route to amsdco-01-02.dcuonline.net [195.33.108.7]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  D-Link.DSL2740B [192.168.1.1]

  2   129 ms    29 ms    34 ms  222.152.45.9

  3    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  mdr-ip20e-int.msc.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.66.22]

  4    41 ms    50 ms    42 ms  ae0-10.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.66.21]

  5    40 ms    41 ms    40 ms  ae5-2.akbr4.global-gateway.net.nz [210.55.202.213]

  6   227 ms   219 ms   221 ms  xe3-1-0.sjbr2.global-gateway.net.nz [122.56.127.14]

  7   197 ms   197 ms   197 ms  ae0.pabr4.global-gateway.net.nz [203.96.120.74]

  8   219 ms   219 ms   219 ms  te-7-4.car2.SanJose2.Level3.net [4.59.4.93]

  9   362 ms   360 ms   363 ms  vlan80.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.152.190]

 10   388 ms   389 ms   387 ms  ae-81-81.ebr1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.153.9]

 11   386 ms   385 ms   386 ms  ae-2-2.ebr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.135.186]

 12   355 ms   358 ms   355 ms  ae-46-46.ebr2.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.201.30]

 13   388 ms   389 ms   389 ms  ae-1-100.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.69.135.253]

 14   355 ms   355 ms   367 ms  4.69.201.89

 15   387 ms   386 ms   386 ms  ae-44-44.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net [4.69.137.61]

 16   360 ms   360 ms   360 ms  ae-45-45.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.143.133]

 17   387 ms   386 ms   387 ms  ae-71-71.csw2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.140.6]

 18   358 ms   357 ms   358 ms  ae-73-73.ebr3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net [4.69.163.5]

 19   385 ms   415 ms   396 ms  ae-46-46.ebr1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.143.169]

 20   354 ms   354 ms   362 ms  ae-22-22.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.143.186]

 21   358 ms   356 ms   355 ms  ae-47-47.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.143.205]

 22   355 ms   355 ms   355 ms  ae-58-113.csw1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.153.194]

 23   393 ms   357 ms   358 ms  4.69.162.189

 24   358 ms   358 ms   359 ms  SONY-ONLINE.edge4.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [212.72.42.182]

 25   355 ms   385 ms   386 ms  amsdco-01-02.dcuonline.net [195.33.108.7]


I like to think that I'm reasonably astute, but I have no idea how to read this, let alone work out if where the problem is likely to be occurring!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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  Reply # 853696 11-Jul-2013 09:20
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

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  Reply # 853966 11-Jul-2013 15:59
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The tracert only shows 300ms (milliseconds) yet you said you are 3+ minutes (180000ms) behind so it doesn't correlate.

300ms+ is normal latency to Europe from NZ, in that trace your traffic goes NZ > US > France > Germany > Amsterdam.

This begs the question why are you playing on Europe servers instead of US servers? West coast US servers would have half the latency and less hops/networks to pass through so less chance of issues upstream in the route.

Try running WinMTR to the address, this will run multiple tracerts and give you an indication of packet loss.
http://winmtr.net/

Also the 30ms for the 2nd hop could be lower if you get Telecom to turn off interleaving on your line profile. You can request this via their online help form.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 853970 11-Jul-2013 16:19
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The 3+ minutes may very well be 1 or 2 that feels like 3 - but I'm definitely way behind everybody else (other symptoms of the lag are powers not cooling down and "teleporting" enemies etc).

For some reason SOE have decided that Australasia should be served via the EU server....so the only way I could play on the US server is to create a US PSN account - which means creating a new character, losing my existing friends etc and having to deal with the apparently horrible DCUO player-base over there, as well as their broken in-game economy.

If the latency is normal, then there must be something else going on....and the only other piece of equipment involved is the PS3 itself.  Or possibly the PS3 ethernet cable - I may test that tonight.

Anyways, thanks for your response - much appreciated.

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