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Topic # 129064 2-Sep-2013 19:17
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http://www.telecom.co.nz/mobile/mobile/plansandpricing/prepaid/switchnow/?cid=soc_tact_mob_pre_snap_fb_01

So what do you guys think of this? It almost sounds too good to be true as one could easily take a couple of SIM cards from another provider (e.g. the masses of free Skinny SIMs handed out 2 years ago) and claim $60 on each of them. Could easily use it with another phone and tether data from it. Have I missed something?

Thoughts?


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  Reply # 888498 2-Sep-2013 19:23
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Hmmmm... interesting.

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  Reply # 888501 2-Sep-2013 19:32
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Could be a expensive exercise to switch from vfone or 2 degrees to telecom as both vfone and 2 degrees use GSM 900MHZ/1800MHZ and 900MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS.

Telecom XT network requires 850MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS capable handsets and Skinny handsets have to be unlocked to accept a Telecom SIM card.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 888504 2-Sep-2013 19:35
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ajw: Could be a expensive exercise to switch from vfone or 2 degrees to telecom as both vfone and 2 degrees use GSM 900MHZ/1800MHZ and 900MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS.

Telecom XT network requires 850MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS capable handsets and Skinny handsets have to be unlocked to accept a Telecom SIM card.


For me personally, I have a Nexus 4 so this would not be a problem. I just have a stack of Skinny SIMs that were never used from when they were handing them out like hotcakes at uni 2 years back. Wondering if they could finally be put to use...

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  Reply # 888517 2-Sep-2013 20:01
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ajw: Could be a expensive exercise to switch from vfone or 2 degrees to telecom as both vfone and 2 degrees use GSM 900MHZ/1800MHZ and 900MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS.

Telecom XT network requires 850MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS capable handsets and Skinny handsets have to be unlocked to accept a Telecom SIM card.


you only need to bring the sim, not the handset..and you can pick up a SIM for about $5


Just for the value of the $60 it's worth it.  

If the $60 credit has standard expiry (6 or 12 months??) then basically everybody who has a compatible telecom handset or tstick (including existing telecom customers!) should buy a new sim from whoever is cheap (skinny and 2D i think both have $5 sim cards), switch that SIM immediately to Telecom and claim the credit.  

I expect you will need to sign up to the $19 plan and that will use your first $19, but then you can cancel it immediately, leaving you with $41 to use on whatever you want - games, ringtones, long distance calls, data etc etc. Then ditch the SIM and go right back to whatever you had before.  Even if you never use any of the $19 plan, you are still $41-5 = $36 better off.

.....But why stop at only 1 SIM!  It's prepaid so, I believe, no way of them tracking any sort of '1 per customer' limit, so go nuts and buy dozens of the things!  As long as you use the credit before it expires you are all good.

Obviously not much good to use for your permanent number as you would have to change number every few months,  but no problem using it for other stuff - like a data plan.
 
Shame you can't use prepaid credit for iTunes/Google Play, which some carriers do worldwide I believe.

On the face of it, this seems like this is one of those promos where the legal bods messed up and accidentally let the marketing team put something through that has huge huge risk about it. 


ETA: having said all that, it only applies when you sign up online, so they might track individuals there somehow by email address or something, but really it isn't that hard to have multiple email addresses


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  Reply # 888518 2-Sep-2013 20:01
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Etcman:
ajw: Could be a expensive exercise to switch from vfone or 2 degrees to telecom as both vfone and 2 degrees use GSM 900MHZ/1800MHZ and 900MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS.

Telecom XT network requires 850MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS capable handsets and Skinny handsets have to be unlocked to accept a Telecom SIM card.


For me personally, I have a Nexus 4 so this would not be a problem. I just have a stack of Skinny SIMs that were never used from when they were handing them out like hotcakes at uni 2 years back. Wondering if they could finally be put to use...


I was just wondering the same, I have 2 active skinny sims lying around. Can I get a new sim and transfer the credit to my existing telecom prepaid sim? There is nothing about this in their T&C's.

Anyone from telecom able to comment?

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  Reply # 888519 2-Sep-2013 20:02
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Nate001:
Etcman:
ajw: Could be a expensive exercise to switch from vfone or 2 degrees to telecom as both vfone and 2 degrees use GSM 900MHZ/1800MHZ and 900MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS.

Telecom XT network requires 850MHZ/2100MHZ UMTS capable handsets and Skinny handsets have to be unlocked to accept a Telecom SIM card.


For me personally, I have a Nexus 4 so this would not be a problem. I just have a stack of Skinny SIMs that were never used from when they were handing them out like hotcakes at uni 2 years back. Wondering if they could finally be put to use...


I was just wondering the same, I have 2 active skinny sims lying around. Can I get a new sim and transfer the credit to my existing telecom prepaid sim? There is nothing about this in their T&C's.

Anyone from telecom able to comment?


you can't transfer credit between accounts, so it's a practical reality rather than Ts and Cs that stop this.

But you can still get the credit and use it on the new SIM you get, for data or something else where you don't mind if it comes from a new number.

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  Reply # 888521 2-Sep-2013 20:05
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NonprayingMantis: you can't transfer credit between accounts, so it's a practical reality rather than Ts and Cs that stop this.


Thats a shame, you can on skinny. Still worth the $5 for a sim though, just for the credit.

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  Reply # 888537 2-Sep-2013 20:12
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Or I dunno... Perhaps move to Telecom for our excellent nationwide coverage and consistent speed. Or perhaps figure out other ways to use up the $60 and go back to what you were doing.

I am always somehow disheartened by folks who's only interests are rorting the system.

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  Reply # 888611 2-Sep-2013 21:05
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plambrechtsen: Or I dunno... Perhaps move to Telecom for our excellent nationwide coverage and consistent speed. Or perhaps figure out other ways to use up the $60 and go back to what you were doing.

I am always somehow disheartened by folks who's only interests are rorting the system.


were not all trying to rort it, I'm looking at moving myself and wife over from 2degrees as this is a great opportunity to try the other side, but just weighing up the pros and cons, eg 20c to check voicemail on telecom whereas 2d uses your minutes which I prefer but anyway, how long do you think this offer will last as my pack doesn't expire for a month.

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  Reply # 888614 2-Sep-2013 21:06
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Shoes2468:how long do you think this offer will last as my pack doesn't expire for a month.


Ends October 5.

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  Reply # 888619 2-Sep-2013 21:09
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"or while promotional SIMs last." - which may be their way out when they realise how much credit they are giving away

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  Reply # 888668 2-Sep-2013 22:33
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Terms and Conditions of this are quite bare for such a big promotion. A few questions: (EDIT: Called Telecom Support, Answers in bold)
-Can this only be redeemed online? I assume they need these special "promotional sims" and the retail stores dont have them?
Yes. Online only. Stores do not have them. Promotional sims limited to 10,000 units.
-Must a number be ported online during the purchase process using the: "Transfer my number to Telecom" option during the purchase process, or can it be ported after the sim arrives?
Yes. The number must be ported during this process
-Is this credit regular credit that has a normal 12 month expiry and can be used in the normal way?
Yes. It has the regular 12 month expiry and can be used exactly like normal credit, with the exception that it obviously cannot be transferred between accounts in any way (if that situation was to ever arise). Initially they thought it might be a shorter expiry but 12 months was confirmed with the supervisor.
-I am assuming there are no further commitments (ie the combos advertised are simply suggested as a great value way to spend the credit)
No further commitments, spend the credit in any way you like.

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  Reply # 888681 2-Sep-2013 23:18
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i currently have an 027 number that i ported too 2Degrees some years ago, can i port it back to telecom to obtain this epic deal?




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  Reply # 888688 2-Sep-2013 23:53
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^I'm going to guess that's a yes. 2Degrees now "owns" this number, so it counts just like any other port. I'm sure telecom would love to have you back so there's no reason why this should be excluded.

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  Reply # 889106 3-Sep-2013 17:02
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Huh. Could be worth it.

Pak'N'Save (Northalnds, Christchurch) today had signs up everywhere trying to get people to buy telecom sims and get an extra $20 top up, I wonder if that was a pak'n'save or telecom initiated thing?


So where are the 2D reps at? In light of this promotion would they be willing to give me a $40 credit and and $6 a month 200 text plan to keep me on board? Or should I take the $60 and get $4 per month off my text plan?


EDIT: Whoops, forgot that telecom doesn't support 2g phones. Sorry, don't want any fancy laggy non-phone related bull getting in the way. $30 phones are where it's at.

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