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Topic # 129442 16-Sep-2013 11:04
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My apologies if this has already been answered.

Currently fed up with a connection that keeps dropping. I'm planning to install a Master Filter but can't find the Demarc Point so I may need to get a Technician to have a look at our wiring. Last time we had a technician visited our home was some twelve years ago. I'm in the Wellington area.

So my questions that need asking:

1. How much will Telecom charge for a visit from a Technician? (Callout, diagnostic and master filter installation - the whole shebang)
2. Any good alternatives that won't charge as much?

Thanks.

EDIT:

Telecom 150GB plan
ADSL2

DSL Type:    ITU-T G.992.5
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]:    760 / 13.960
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]:    430,12 / 346,29
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]:    12,2 / 0,0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]:    5,1 / 11,5
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]:    12,6 / 11,7

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Connection I believe is to cabinet
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Have done way too much isolation tests to no avail.

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  Reply # 896244 16-Sep-2013 11:04
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

 

- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap

 


 

- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing

 


 

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Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

 



 

- Your ISP and plan

 


 

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

 


 

- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)

 


 

- Your general location (or street)

 


 

- If you are rural or urban

 


 

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

 


 

- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service

 


 

- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

 



 

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

 



 

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)

 


 

- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?




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  Reply # 896256 16-Sep-2013 11:10
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I think the standard broadband wiring charge (i.e. master splitter installation) is $199.

If it were me, I'd persevere with doing it myself. Many houses do not have a demarc point (well not a specific demarc box), so if you take the covers off all of your phone jacks you should try to find the one with a thick black sheathed cable in it - that's where the phone line enters the house. Then its < $50 for parts, provided the cabling isn't too contorted

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 896260 16-Sep-2013 11:18
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Or the other option is since you are in Wellington, contact Cyril7 on Geekzone and he does the install of a Master Filter for $100 (that may have increased, but discuss it with him). Which I think is excellent value since he does a professional job.

I know I can do it myself, but would still happily pay Stephen to do the job as I know he wouldn't botch it and have all the scotchlocks and associated tools to do the job properly.

Edit: The other option you may be able to get VDSL, which is a $99 install, plus $10 increase on monthly spend but a huge increase in broadband speeds. If you email me "pl at telecom.co.nz" I can run a line test to see.



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  Reply # 904021 28-Sep-2013 09:42
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Update: Had VDSL installed and Chorus Technician was able to install a Master Splitter at the Demarc point but we're still having frequent disconnections. :/

Also, do I still need to use inline filter for each jackpoint?

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  Reply # 904026 28-Sep-2013 10:02
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Zytorious: Update: Had VDSL installed and Chorus Technician was able to install a Master Splitter at the Demarc point but we're still having frequent disconnections. :/

Also, do I still need to use inline filter for each jackpoint?


No. A master filter eliminates plug in filters.

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  Reply # 904027 28-Sep-2013 10:03
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Zytorious: Update: Had VDSL installed and Chorus Technician was able to install a Master Splitter at the Demarc point but we're still having frequent disconnections. :/

Also, do I still need to use inline filter for each jackpoint?


No - you no longer need any of the plug in filters  - as the xDSL Service will not be being delivered to any of the other jackpoints but the one set up just for xDSL

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  Reply # 904190 28-Sep-2013 15:34
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First time I had ADSL installed Chorus did a half assed job so I found that I had the main cable (black cable, very chunky looking) - got rid of the massive amounts of white cable attached to it and reduced the length of the black cable back to what was necessary so when the VDSL installers came in the cable wasn't a chopped a mess as with the prior ADSL installation. I think you might want to check out is how long the cable is, how many times it has been split off and whether it is actually going directly to the main jack point or does it go for a scenic tour around under the house (like mine and my parents wiring did).




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