Need help! Should I upgrade to VDSL?

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ytao003

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#144158 9-May-2014 09:58

Here is the information from my router? What speed i may get if i switch to VDSL? And where can i found out the distance from my home to the cabinet? Thanks.

DSL Connection

Link Information
Uptime: 2 days, 6:57:24

DSL Type: G.992.5 annex A

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1.240 / 16.315

Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0,00 / 0,00

Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12,5 / 0,0

Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 2,0 / 9,5

SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 13,0 / 12,5

Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / IKNS

Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 7 / 0

Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 5 / 0

Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0

Loss of Link (Remote): 0

Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 10 / 0

FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 0

CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1

HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1

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#1040634 9-May-2014 09:58

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If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

- you have reset your modem and router

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- Your ISP and plan

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

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- Your general location (or street)

- If you are rural or urban

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service

- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

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- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?

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#1040652 9-May-2014 10:07

If you want better speeds, particularly upstream, then yes upgrade. You should get a decent speed increase in both directions, given your line stats, I'd guess at 30/10, but there's a lot of factors, and there's others who are probably more familiar with it who may give a more accurate estimate.

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#1040670 9-May-2014 10:30

at 9.5dB, ild put you down for about 30~40/10

on the upper end of the distance for vdsl, but still should be a pretty decent result.

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#1040741 9-May-2014 11:39

Send me a private message or email me "pl at telecom.co.nz" and I can run a line test.. but from those stats you should be ok. If it's without a master filter then you should be fine as the master filter install will improve things even more.

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#1040750 9-May-2014 11:59

I just had VDSL2 connected this morning and had very similar ADSL stats prior to today. Initial connection speeds are 40/10 which after trying to read through the VDSL thread may increase after 10days or so.

Fibres in the area but the neighbours don't want the driveway dug up so this is my best option (bonus is, 40/10 is faster than the cheapest fibre plan 30/10).

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#1040754 9-May-2014 12:05

You are 240 meters or so away from the cabinet, and you currently have a bridged tap on your line, so you should be pretty sweet when / if you move to VDSL.

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#1040759 9-May-2014 12:21

Ours changed from 10/1 to 30/10. At the same price point these days if you are up for any benefit I wouldn't hesitate.

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#1040805 9-May-2014 13:09

scuwp: Ours changed from 10/1 to 30/10. At the same price point these days if you are up for any benefit I wouldn't hesitate.

Came to basically write the same comment.

Given the same price point, or thereabouts, I think anyone who can't get fibre should look at VDSL.
IF you can't sync sufficiently, or it's not stable then they don't migrate you and you don't pay for the install. Very little to lose.

ytao003

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#1040840 9-May-2014 13:58

plambrechtsen: You are 240 meters or so away from the cabinet, and you currently have a bridged tap on your line, so you should be pretty sweet when / if you move to VDSL.

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#1041145 9-May-2014 21:46

I had 12-14 down and 1 up on ADSL, now I'm on VDSL, I get 50-60 down and 9 up :)

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#1041205 9-May-2014 23:22

And tell your neighbours that they better not be planning on doing any building work or having noisy partys anytime soon.

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