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#183745 28-Oct-2015 20:00

We moved to Otaki Beach over 3 years ago, accepted 6MB was as good as it was going to get and promptly forgot about it.

We went away a couple of weeks ago, come back, and now there is a shiny new cabinet (OTG) being installed just up the road to replace the old one. I spoke with the Chorus bloke working on it today and he confirmed it was fibre to the cabinet and there was work further down towards my house to put 'fibre to the home' his words.

Is there any way I can find out what will be offered by this cabinet ? I've called Spark who say they have no idea. I've called Chorus who said it should be switched on next month but I need to talk to my provider. None of the 'put your address in here' websites tell me anything I don't already know.

Can a Spark person confirm when they will be offering fibre plans on this cabinet and is there any way of knowing what speeds I can expect ?

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#1415711 28-Oct-2015 20:00

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#1415724 28-Oct-2015 20:10

OT/G is just a regular Whisper cabinet installed as part of RBI delivering VDSL2 and ADSL2+ services. It does not deliver FTTH.

Like many Chorus areas P2P fibre services are available if you're prepared to front with the cash. It's safe to say you will not be able to afford this.

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#1415726 28-Oct-2015 20:13

OT/G would be correct name for that cabinet.

Just to cover VDSL availability off that cabinet.. Here's the planned area.

Nobody can really tell you, Yeah you will get 50Mbit there! or something like that, but indicating vdsl is likely possible is doable. I would be interested in your current DSL statistics which would be able to give some rough indication.

Planned dates is July 2015 to June 2016 so anywhere in there you will get migrated over, As fibre is still being laid currently your a little way off still however.

As for UFB, unless I am confusing LFCs, I dont see plans for around there.

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#1415729 28-Oct-2015 20:18

Great, thanks.

So given I'm about 800m from the cabinet I should expect something between 30-50Mbps given all the usual caveats ?

[e] it's been a long day.

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#1415730 28-Oct-2015 20:19

Mbps

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#1415733 28-Oct-2015 20:24

I would be interested in your current DSL statistics which would be able to give some rough indication.

Is this enough ?
Line Attenuation (Up/Down): 22.8/45.0
SN Margin (Up/Down): 13.2/12.1

I would be surprised if there are more than 40-50 houses in that area if that helps me.

hio77:
Planned dates is July 2015 to June 2016 so anywhere in there you will get migrated over, As fibre is still being laid currently your a little way off still however.

As for UFB, unless I am confusing LFCs, I dont see plans for around there.

I see the Spark website now says Ultra Fast Fibre is coming soon for my address. Is that not the case ?

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#1415739 28-Oct-2015 20:37

hio77: OT/G would be correct name for that cabinet.

Just to cover VDSL availability off that cabinet.. Here's the planned area.

Nobody can really tell you, Yeah you will get 50Mbit there! or something like that, but indicating vdsl is likely possible is doable. I would be interested in your current DSL statistics which would be able to give some rough indication.

Planned dates is July 2015 to June 2016 so anywhere in there you will get migrated over, As fibre is still being laid currently your a little way off still however.

As for UFB, unless I am confusing LFCs, I dont see plans for around there.

Could you please tell me where you got that map from.

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#1415758 28-Oct-2015 20:48

Sean2842:
hio77: OT/G would be correct name for that cabinet.

Just to cover VDSL availability off that cabinet.. Here's the planned area.

Nobody can really tell you, Yeah you will get 50Mbit there! or something like that, but indicating vdsl is likely possible is doable. I would be interested in your current DSL statistics which would be able to give some rough indication.

Planned dates is July 2015 to June 2016 so anywhere in there you will get migrated over, As fibre is still being laid currently your a little way off still however.

As for UFB, unless I am confusing LFCs, I dont see plans for around there.

Could you please tell me where you got that map from.

Thanks

That's an internal Chorus map for their customers, it's not available to the public.

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I would be surprised if there are more than 40-50 houses in that area if that helps me.

That's not relevant. The whisper cabinets have enough capacity to serve all the houses in its area. What you care about is the length and quality of the copper from your house to the cabinet.

martyyn:
I see the Spark website now says Ultra Fast Fibre is coming soon for my address. Is that not the case ?

I don't see any Chorus fibre plans in that area, unless I'm reading it wrong?

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#1415759 28-Oct-2015 20:50

DarkShadow:
Sean2842:
hio77: OT/G would be correct name for that cabinet.

Just to cover VDSL availability off that cabinet.. Here's the planned area.

Nobody can really tell you, Yeah you will get 50Mbit there! or something like that, but indicating vdsl is likely possible is doable. I would be interested in your current DSL statistics which would be able to give some rough indication.

Planned dates is July 2015 to June 2016 so anywhere in there you will get migrated over, As fibre is still being laid currently your a little way off still however.

As for UFB, unless I am confusing LFCs, I dont see plans for around there.

Could you please tell me where you got that map from.

Thanks

That's an internal Chorus map for their customers, it's not available to the public.

Oh ok thanks

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#1415761 28-Oct-2015 20:52

As above, its not a public facing map sorry. i wish the days of "bbc" would come back for the transparency it offered.

800m, i would put you on the 30mbit mark, although given those attenuation figures i suspect you aren't on that cabinet, at-lest currently...

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#1415786 28-Oct-2015 21:21

does your house show up inside that area that hio77 provided? if not then you are probably fed from somewhere else

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#1415788 28-Oct-2015 21:22

If you're 800m from that cabinet and connected to it, I would put you at closer to 30 Mbps. I'm 300m from mine and when I had VDSL the best I could get was 61 - which was still fine.

Are you covered by the map shown above?

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#1415790 28-Oct-2015 21:26

Jase2985: does your house show up inside that area that hio77 provided? if not then you are probably fed from somewhere else

Yep, I'm at the other end of Rangiuru Road.

There are no other cabinets down here we are at the end of the line.

The Chorus bloke said he expected to finish moving everyone from the old to the new sometime this week, but couldn'y say anything more than that.

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#1415828 28-Oct-2015 22:46

martyyn:
Jase2985: does your house show up inside that area that hio77 provided? if not then you are probably fed from somewhere else

Yep, I'm at the other end of Rangiuru Road.

There are no other cabinets down here we are at the end of the line.

The Chorus bloke said he expected to finish moving everyone from the old to the new sometime this week, but couldn'y say anything more than that.

When you say you are at the other end of Rangiuru Rd - do you mean closer to Marine Parade or back towards Main St from the Cabinet?

If towards Marine Parade then yes you will be feed from this cabinet - the other way not.

Current xDSL service out of the old cabinet is feed all the way back from the Exchange (which is about a further 2km back)

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#1416433 29-Oct-2015 20:28

InstallerUFB: When you say you are at the other end of Rangiuru Rd - do you mean closer to Marine Parade or back towards Main St from the Cabinet?

Yes, the Marine Parade end. But I'm well inside the diagram posted above.

InstallerUFB: If towards Marine Parade then yes you will be feed from this cabinet - the other way not.

Correct.

InstallerUFB: Current xDSL service out of the old cabinet is feed all the way back from the Exchange (which is about a further 2km back)

Yep, were around 3km from the exchange so I was quite happy with 6Mbps.

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