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Topic # 7151 23-Mar-2006 13:40
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For those that haven't yet heard Telecom are launching a Mobile Freedom plan next month where you can pay $10 per month for flat rate calls from a Telecom landline to an 027 phone. Up to 5 FCN's are available for $10 each and calls are capped at 1hr per call and 160hrs for the month.


Anybody got any comments on this?


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  Reply # 31379 23-Mar-2006 17:56
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Full details here http://www.telecom.co.nz/freedom

Looks like a great product, particulary for families, students or people who do a lot of calling between home and mobile

Kids will be able to call home for free from their 027 mobile, parents get a piece of mind without having to worry about the cost..



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  Reply # 31380 23-Mar-2006 18:05
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I've already had a friend contact me today wanting to know the cost of building up an Asterisk PBX to interface his 2 home lines. Basically he could save a couple of hundred dollars per month on his mobile by setting up both home numbers as FCN from his 027 mobile. You then dial in and get a dialtone to dialout on the 2nd line for free local calls or toll calls at normal landline rates. You could also use a VoIP provider like iTalk or MyNetFone for outgoing calls and it would be even cheaper.



 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 31381 23-Mar-2006 18:07
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Looks good. I wonder if Voda will have a similar offer to match it.




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Reply # 31385 23-Mar-2006 19:12
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Telecom landline......... awwww I'm out of luck since I'm on Telstra





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Reply # 31387 23-Mar-2006 19:22
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WOW!!!! Very Very nice... been waiting for this one for quite some time..... Excellent.....

The main bit I love is the Two-way, lets the kids or even employees phone home free!!! no more "i ran out of credit"

Very Very nice product, GasBags, Just be careful about that one hour limit, it could get very expensive otherwise!

Only gripe is 123 reps cannot sell it and it's not available to business (imagine the revenue dropout!)
BUT>>>>> Remember businesses have Businesstime and Team Builder Zero which allows Landlines and mobiles for the unlimited calling FCN.




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  Reply # 31396 23-Mar-2006 21:16
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James Bond: Telecom landline......... awwww I'm out of luck since I'm on Telstra


I'm pretty sure TCL will have an equivalent offer (for voda mobiles of course)



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  Reply # 31399 23-Mar-2006 22:01
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cokemaster: Looks good. I wonder if Voda will have a similar offer to match it.


I believe this is Telecom's preemptive attack on Vodafone's plan to launch a "local" phone service and IMHO Telecom have called Vodafone's bluff and set the benchmark - $10 flat rate per month for all calls diverted from a PSTN number to a mobile.

My only issue still is that Telecom are denying Vodafone access to non fee local interconnection due to their wish to terminate these calls on a mobile network yet Telecom have effectively pitched this new product straight at the same market.

Vodafone now have no real choice but to make $10 the most you'll pay for incoming calls when you are outside your home area and Telecom can now match or undercut Vodafone on an identical product the day they launch it.

The tide is now turning in NZ - no longer are Vodafone the ones innovaters they are merely the also rans..


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  Reply # 31401 23-Mar-2006 23:15
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paradoxsm: Only gripe is 123 reps cannot sell it and it's not available to business (imagine the revenue dropout!


Paradoxsm  -why the gripe about 123 reps not being able to sell freedom? 

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Reply # 31404 24-Mar-2006 01:25
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Not sure... Just they miss out on the sales? it's be a nice thing for them to proactivly promote and sell to customers when they phone in, It's a really nice product.
(I don't work for 123)

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  Reply # 31416 24-Mar-2006 12:51
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sbiddle: I've already had a friend contact me today wanting to know the cost of building up an Asterisk PBX to interface his 2 home lines. Basically he could save a couple of hundred dollars per month on his mobile by setting up both home numbers as FCN from his 027 mobile. You then dial in and get a dialtone to dialout on the 2nd line for free local calls or toll calls at normal landline rates. You could also use a VoIP provider like iTalk or MyNetFone for outgoing calls and it would be even cheaper.




Not only is your friend interested, I am as well!!!  Around how much will it cost?

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  Reply # 31442 24-Mar-2006 20:49
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paradoxsm: Not sure... Just they miss out on the sales? it's be a nice thing for them to proactivly promote and sell to customers when they phone in, It's a really nice product.
(I don't work for 123)


I don't work for 123 either but know a few of the reps and they don't seem to be complaining, its 100% self service saving the need to have to wait on the phone to get it manually provisioned - in fact it may mean more 027 sales opportunites for them..

Welcome to the future of self provisioning i guess, can you imagine the pain if customers had to dial 123 or visit a dealer to get ringtones, callertunes, wallpapers delivered to their mobile phone?

Agree, its a nice, simple and easy to understand product, hopefully it goes down well with customers and we start seeing more types of offers like this..

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Reply # 31444 24-Mar-2006 21:00
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ooh! so it does self provision! I assumed it had a dedicated sales team who would also nab the 2 new phones for the kids.

This looks good, The'll lose some money at one and but gain it in higher uptake of bundled services.

I phoned it (0800 100 100) and tried to change my Anytime plan to AnytimePlus but got a real lady rather than a robot.



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  Reply # 31445 24-Mar-2006 21:04
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Well it looks like my idea was fantastic, first Mauricio and now Juha have mentioned it! :-)

For those who wanted an approximate cost a Sipura 3000 FXO costs around $150 so if you had broadband you could theoretically use one of these and a PC and then route all calls for iTalk or MyNetFone which would cost you 5c per minute to call anywhere in NZ. You would need 2 x Sipura 3000's to make a call out via another Telecom line and any PC that's at least a PIII 500. You could check the incoming CID and give your mobile number direct access to the external line for security purposes or create a PIN number for access.



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  Reply # 31449 24-Mar-2006 23:10
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Yes it is only the beginning.

So much so I think Telecom see's this as actually going to happen being forced by the Commerce Commission to investigate Vodafone’s request for an access determination in relation to interconnection with Telecom’s fixed network. Yes Telecom has blocked requests to talk and to deal on this subject as its protecting its market.
 
The new Telecom Freedom Plan is Telecom getting in first and using their monolopy on the local loop.

Bring on unbundling yes you Telecom stalwarts will actually see real competation and choice of providers and real competation and NO Im not a Vodafone devote.

As long as as we have a a monolopy we wont get real choice and Im not saying that choice is Vodafone as at now there is no real alternative some pro's and cons with Vodafone, Woosh , Telstra and Callplus to name a few.

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  Reply # 31460 25-Mar-2006 00:11
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There's some other good stuff coming shortly.. lips are sealed. companies are panicking, I see Mobile termination charged being reduced from 26c and 27c to more like 15c

Which means my Go Free 200 (Amway TXT-MAXX with 6PM offpeak) at 15c a minute to Vodafone actually costs Telecom money!!!)




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