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#2229079 1-May-2019 22:58

The response was a timeout due to time to write the PM. I have changed that.

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#2229080 1-May-2019 23:03

And it seems to work now

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#2234488 10-May-2019 14:27

freitasm:
Correct. But this is the bot on the good guys' side.

Just to get this straight: you are calling Google the good guys??

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#2234489 10-May-2019 14:29

Ah, ah. Very funny.

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#2234494 10-May-2019 14:33

freitasm: Ah, ah. Very funny.

I am sorry, but I actually don't think it is.

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#2234495 10-May-2019 14:34

I think the reply is sarcastic and unnecessary. You might not know what "Bad bot" is so I will let you just simmer on this.

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#2234526 10-May-2019 15:20

freitasm: I think the reply is sarcastic and unnecessary. You might not know what "Bad bot" is so I will let you just simmer on this.

There are other ways to fight bad bots than to force us to donate our data and brain cycles to one of the most evil companies in existence today.

And no, my reply wasn't sarcastic. If anything, it was cynical. But mostly, it was in horror and utter disagreement.

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#2234528 10-May-2019 15:24

Thanks. I am not changing this for now.

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#2234534 10-May-2019 15:41

freitasm: Thanks. I am not changing this for now.

I followed your reasoning in this post, and I'm not trying to argue your approach here. Thanks for your diligence and tiredless work on this site. I just can't let it stand that Google are regarded to be on the good side, because they aren't. If the spectrum is linear up to now, and between us and the bad bots, then make it a triangle, and put Google on the "much worse, but currently not fighting this fight" corner.

Haven't checked the forum guidelines on this, so I'll assume that it wouldn't be okay if I ended this post with the f-word, followed by big G.

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#2234698 10-May-2019 19:09

madduck:
freitasm: Thanks. I am not changing this for now.

I followed your reasoning in this post, and I'm not trying to argue your approach here. Thanks for your diligence and tiredless work on this site. I just can't let it stand that Google are regarded to be on the good side, because they aren't. If the spectrum is linear up to now, and between us and the bad bots, then make it a triangle, and put Google on the "much worse, but currently not fighting this fight" corner.

Haven't checked the forum guidelines on this, so I'll assume that it wouldn't be okay if I ended this post with the f-word, followed by big G.

Boot your computer with a Linux Live CD and use that to browse GZ if you are really that worried about Google tracking you.

Meanwhile, I'll keep on enjoying less spam thanks to Google. Disclaimer- I have been deeply pulled into the Google ecosystem. Have paid subscriptions with Google, as well as an Android phone (Google Play Services tracking) And have a static IP on my home Internet connection.

I only rarely get asked to do a picture challenge on 3rd party websites.

Although I refuse to join the Apple ecosystem.

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#2234957 11-May-2019 13:28

Aredwood:
Boot your computer with a Linux Live CD and use that to browse GZ if you are really that worried about Google tracking you.

Meanwhile, I'll keep on enjoying less spam thanks to Google. Disclaimer- I have been deeply pulled into the Google ecosystem. Have paid subscriptions with Google, as well as an Android phone (Google Play Services tracking) And have a static IP on my home Internet connection.

I only rarely get asked to do a picture challenge on 3rd party websites.

Although I refuse to join the Apple ecosystem.

Apple's ecosystem requires you to pay with money.

Google's ecosystem requires you to pay with data and your privacy.

Everyone makes their own choices. Sounds like you decided to sell out. I actually do use Linux, use appropriate blockers, cookie managers, and containers to avoid Google (where I am not forced to let them in like on this site), don't run any Google services on my phone, and I use Tor in certain circumstances. It's unfortunately hard work, but at least I don't live in a bubble.

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#2235008 11-May-2019 15:37

@madduck Nobody is forcing you to use this site.

Nobody is also forcing you to use the internet, the services on the internet or anything. Nobody is forcing you to leave your house and get tracked by cameras, Bluetooth + WiFi beacon sniffers. Nobody is forcing you to use the New World club card or the Onecard which tracks the purchases you make for better prices. Nobody is forcing you to have your electricity connected to the grid and having your electricity use tracked.

This is the world we live in. You can either go all out living in your cave and attempting to not get tracked or you can just live your life. End of story.

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#2235029 11-May-2019 16:08

madduck:
Aredwood:
Boot your computer with a Linux Live CD and use that to browse GZ if you are really that worried about Google tracking you.

Meanwhile, I'll keep on enjoying less spam thanks to Google. Disclaimer- I have been deeply pulled into the Google ecosystem. Have paid subscriptions with Google, as well as an Android phone (Google Play Services tracking) And have a static IP on my home Internet connection.

I only rarely get asked to do a picture challenge on 3rd party websites.

Although I refuse to join the Apple ecosystem.

Apple's ecosystem requires you to pay with money.

Google's ecosystem requires you to pay with data and your privacy.

Everyone makes their own choices. Sounds like you decided to sell out. I actually do use Linux, use appropriate blockers, cookie managers, and containers to avoid Google (where I am not forced to let them in like on this site), don't run any Google services on my phone, and I use Tor in certain circumstances. It's unfortunately hard work, but at least I don't live in a bubble.

I dont care if Google knows that I'm using Geekzone. As all posts that you put on GZ are publicly available, so anyone can see what you have posted. And the moderators will of course be tracking everything that you do on GZ. Blocking Google locally on your devices or network is not going to change that.

And please don't accuse me of living in a bubble. If I want to, I can temporarily or permanently go “off the grid”.

But if you want to permanently live “off the grid” NZ is completely the wrong country to try doing so in. As even the land ownership database is publicly available. And so many other things are chained to that. And due to the AML rules, lots of organizations now do credit checks as part of verifying ID. And there are some places that are starting to refuse cash for payments. Instead only allowing bank transfers. As a way of piggybacking off the banks AML systems.

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Even if you just live in the bush. Eventually some hunters will find you. Or the gangs while looking for somewhere to grow dope.

If I wanted to go “off grid” I would be going overseas first.

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#2235044 11-May-2019 16:14

As for Apple, they lock you into using their hardware. While with Android, I can choose whatever hardware I want. And not be forced to replace it at the whims of a large company.

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#2235046 11-May-2019 16:19

Aredwood:

And there are some places that are starting to refuse cash for payments. Instead only allowing bank transfers. As a way of piggybacking off the banks AML systems.

Is it legal to refuse cash here? I think (don't know for certain) that this was tested in American courts. Does it not say on US currency 'legal tender for all debts, public and private'?

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