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#237743 16-Jun-2018 10:26

I have a recaptcha logo on the bottom right of my Geekzone webpages. This is not there on other sites.

When I hover the mouse over the logo it extends out into a banner to 1/5 of the screen width and has hyperlinks to Privacy and Terms

Anybody know how I can get rid of it?

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#2038550 16-Jun-2018 10:31

Googles privacy policy thing. On mine to, just sits there covering up bottom right corner

I’d like to know if there’s a way of ridding it to.

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#2038554 16-Jun-2018 10:42

I stuck a piece of black insulation tape over it. Problem solved, I can't see it now.

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#2038555 16-Jun-2018 10:42

So it's not just me; it's been there for a few days so I was starting to wonder...

DarthKermit:

I stuck a piece of black insulation tape over it. Problem solved, I can't see it now.

But that would leave a big black blob! Much better to use transparent tape.

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#2038567 16-Jun-2018 11:04

kiwiharry: I have a recaptcha logo on the bottom right of my Geekzone webpages. This is not there on other sites.

No, it is probably not in other sites but it should be. It is something I am running with a new Google reCaptcha version.

rugrat: Googles privacy policy thing.

Yes, it makes it clear to visitors that something is being done with some data.

Here is what it does: we used previous reCaptcha versions in the registration and contact pages. Those need direct interaction with the user - as in you have to check the box and if for any reason there's a suspicion you are not a human then some puzzle.

The new version does not need interaction. It monitors all activities on the site - hence it can be put in all pages. It does not directly link one visitor to the activities (as this is not allowed in the TOS anyway) but allows us to have an idea of what is going on. Also, any forms in the site automatically have a Google reCaptcha - even posting in the forums, PMs, etc.

Why I'm doing this? Because I'm trying to see what's the frequency of bots and bad actors on the site.

You may notice the incidence of spam is pretty low on Geekzone. That's because we have great moderators, which are supported by some automated tools and routines that slowly catch up and remove spam (or prevent spam).

This reCaptcha is just another tool for that. Instead of returning a "YES/NO" result for the question "Is this activity driven by a robot?" the new version looks at all activities around the site and returns a score from 0 to 1. If we see a new user with a score of 0.1 then we know something is not good here. If we see an old user with a score 0.1 then perhaps someone used a password leaked somewhere else to login. If we see a new user with a solid 1 then we are pretty much safe.

We already use Cloudflare settings to block most robots activities. But something always go through. As it is, since this went live, about 2% of the activities around the site would be questionable. This is a good number - I wouldn't want anything higher than this. But we have to keep a lid on it.

The badge itself doesn't cover any content, so please just let it be.

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#2038569 16-Jun-2018 11:09

Could it not be made smaller, like 1x1 pixel? I find it distracting and sometimes turn it off by disabling javascript. What does that do to your stats?

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#2038572 16-Jun-2018 11:15

Rikkitic:

Could it not be made smaller, like 1x1 pixel? I find it distracting and sometimes turn it off by disabling javascript. What does that do to your stats?

No option for that yet. It's a beta version so things can change.

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#2038647 16-Jun-2018 13:32

Side question: Google recaptcha is currently a free service. Same as maps were. Do you see them changing that some time soon? Also delighted to see them update their privacy for gSuite - so they are not browsing emails for key words to use in their other activities any more. Maybe GDPR is doing something good after all.

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#2038660 16-Jun-2018 13:47

I don't think so. They use the human interaction to categorise images for Google Maps... Don't think they could justify charging for reCaptcha then.

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#2038723 16-Jun-2018 17:28

lNomNoml:
Why would you want to get rid of it?, I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out.

I find it a distraction, plus when reading forums it does cover some material of which have to scroll to see or click on.

I still don’t understand why can’t click on it, acknowledge person understands the privacy terms for people logged in, and then data is collected from then on without on screen.

One thing I love about streaming is currently don’t put crap on screen, some people don’t care but to me it still distracts me from viewing with three logo’s etc on screen.

Adds are fine as they have their own area, they’re not in content space trying to read.

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#2038727 16-Jun-2018 17:33

Took me a short time to deal with in stylish for firefox which is what I normally use on here.

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#2038762 16-Jun-2018 19:08

I find it an intrusion on my viewing space and I often hit when navigating to the scroll bars.

Hate it.

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#2038911 17-Jun-2018 01:03

I hate it, but with considerably less fury than I outright despise recaptcha itself. I find myself actually stopping using some sites when I see that damned captcha popup.

Plus, I really don't like Google having that much data.

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#2038922 17-Jun-2018 08:18

I hate it. @freitasm have you had any positive feedback about it? If the feedback is universally bad then do you think you'll get rid of it or modify it.

Being the BDFL it's entirely up to you what you do but it'd be nice to get rid of.

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#2038999 17-Jun-2018 10:24

so as I understand things, there is a bot on the site to detect if there are bots on the site.

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#2039006 17-Jun-2018 11:06

TwoSeven:

so as I understand things, there is a bot on the site to detect if there are bots on the site.

Correct. But this is the bot on the good guys' side.

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