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# 154107 18-Oct-2014 07:51
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Good Morning

Are you able to increase the minimum size that the forum resizes pictures too? 95% of the time it makes them too small to read which makes it hard for people to get advice on the issue.

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  # 1157288 18-Oct-2014 08:36
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They generally look fine to me. What kind of computer/monitor are you using?

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  # 1157289 18-Oct-2014 08:37
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Rather than paying full screen shots, why not just cut out the relevant bit of the image and post that?

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=4&topicid=149994




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  # 1157318 18-Oct-2014 09:25
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timmmay: They generally look fine to me. What kind of computer/monitor are you using?


http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumId=39&topicId=154094

That for example is the relevant information which has been cropped but its very small and hard to read

The problem is you cant force people to crop information, which if they did it would be great and easy to read but sometimes you cant crop small enough. 533 pixles for forced resizing is rather small these days.

Im also using a Dell 22in monitor over DVI with 1680x1050 resolution so thats not an issue

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  # 1157325 18-Oct-2014 09:38
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That image isn't cropped to show just the relevant information though. There is still plenty that could be removed. Not everyone has a nice big monitor with ideal resolutions unfortunately. Huge images are just going to stuff the page up.

Perhaps another option would be displaying thumbnails but that's up to our BDFL.




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  # 1157329 18-Oct-2014 09:42
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The code really should link to the full size. As I can't even upload a pic from the phone to gz it's often easier to tweet it and use that image since it's smaller.




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  # 1157330 18-Oct-2014 09:47
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if you crop the image much smaller you loose context

as ive said i feel 533 pixles is too small these days, failing that click-able thumbnails that take you to the full size picture

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  # 1157399 18-Oct-2014 12:32
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Jase2985:
timmmay: They generally look fine to me. What kind of computer/monitor are you using?


http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumId=39&topicId=154094

That for example is the relevant information which has been cropped but its very small and hard to read


No, that image is not cropped. The original uploaded image is 1437 x 792 pixels. Stick that into a forum post and it will break any format possible.

Here is the resized image as uploaded by the user:



And below is the same image, but I have now cropped to the actual information we need to know:



See what cropping can do?

Now, what I could do is change the [img] code to something like [imgresize] and show a thumbnail with a link to the original image. This would then satisfy every (lazy) person in the world, surely?





 
 
 
 




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  # 1157402 18-Oct-2014 12:46
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but its not just lazy people its those that dont know any better or those that dont know how

surely its easier for you to set the forum up it make it n00b proof as opposed to asking all users to make the forum n00b proof.

i dunno, ive just been on many other forums that limit or automatically size the image to fit inside the frames for the window, that way it doesnt matter how big the image is its still easily viewable or you can click to get the full sized one

could you not change the bbcode that it generates to be the picture url for the smaller image and the url of the bigger image so you can click on the smaller image in the forum post and it will link you to the bigger one?

ie like that, but with our the extra space in the opening image bracket?

[url=https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/b7d5cf987122e1dc05e8d09fc5d82234.jpg[img ]https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/blogb7d5cf987122e1dc05e8d09fc5d82234.jpg[/img][url]

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  # 1157424 18-Oct-2014 12:58
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Jase2985: i dunno, ive just been on many other forums that limit or automatically size the image to fit inside the frames for the window, that way it doesnt matter how big the image is its still easily viewable or you can click to get the full sized one


You wrote "ive been on many other forums that limit or automatically size the image to fit inside the frames for the window" and that's exactly what we do.

My suggestion is to create a code you can just copy and paste that will automatically link to the original image, opening it on another tab.








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  # 1157443 18-Oct-2014 13:16
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but you automatically rezise when its posted inline to something small, why 560 pixels? why not 800 pixels?

your putting the onus onto the poster, and while that's all well an good, as you have probably seen from running the forum for how ever many years people don't follow rules or suggestions etc and being a technology forum you get a lot of n00bs on here asking questions and posting images so why not make it as easy as possible for them?

the other forums i was talking about automatically resize the image when it is rendered for the person viewing the page, ie if you are viewing on a 1024x768 screen you will see a different sized image to someone with a 1920x1080 screen.

Do you not have statistics on what screen sizes people are viewing the forum from?




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  # 1157459 18-Oct-2014 13:26
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I do have statistics - and the majority of people (80%) use something that wouldn't be able to show a large image even if reduce to 800 pixels.

Using CSS to resize an image (as you suggest) will still show a very bad rendering for 80% of the users visiting the page. And that's because it just resizes the image, it does not actually focus on what's important in the image.

Take the example above again: here is the link to the original image (not the resized one I posted, not the cropped one I posted, but the original one the user posted). Open the link and see how large it is and tell me it would fit well on any forum page.

Insert this into a forum post with 700 pixels wide and this is what you see:



Still there is a lot of wasted space there, still hard to see the important information. Compare this with the cropped version I posted before.

I have a compromise already: I can add a tag that will show a thumbnail and link to the original.








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  # 1157462 18-Oct-2014 13:31
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yes there is still wasted space, but thats not the point i was getting at, you can now read the info in the image which is what i was getting at. and yes as you have said the OP could have cropped it which would have made it bigger.

those stats, does that separate requests made from mobile devices? or just PC/Mac?

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  # 1159476 21-Oct-2014 18:55
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Created a new [imgthumb] tag that will automatically insert the image at 200 pixels wide and add a link to the original image:

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Also I will be increasing the upload limits to 2MB, which is good enough for screenshots.







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  # 1159505 21-Oct-2014 19:29
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Thank you very much Mauricio

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