Introduction of a 'Wheaton Level'

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#265453 22-Jan-2020 12:00

Hi all,

I'm proposing a Wheaton level based on your last 6 or 12 month history of Wheaton's Law violations or near misses.

A small vert bar displaying a level (Green/orange/red)... that good behaviour over time will improve as Dlck points drop off.

Just a random thought I had for when reading someones post to get a guage on what that person is generally like in the forum?

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#2404512 22-Jan-2020 12:05

I'd have thought +1's are a good indication of that. E.G. if you've got a high number of posts but a low number of +1's then you're not doing so well in the view of your peers on the forum.

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#2404516 22-Jan-2020 12:10

Seems like it could be quite subjective and likely to prompt many disagreements and arguments.

PS: I'm not sure +1s are the greatest indication though - they're more of an indication that you say lots of things a decent subsection of the community agrees with. e.g calling someone a complete and utter moron for complaining they're not getting "advertised speed" on a gig connection when testing over wifi is likely to garner a few +1s but also a slightly dick move... ;-)

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#2404521 22-Jan-2020 12:23

sidefx:

Seems like it could be quite subjective and likely to prompt many disagreements and arguments.

PS: I'm not sure +1s are the greatest indication though - they're more of an indication that you say lots of things a decent subsection of the community agrees with. e.g calling someone a complete and utter moron for complaining they're not getting "advertised speed" on a gig connection when testing over wifi is likely to garner a few +1s but also a slightly dick move... ;-)

Also some people can be incredibly helpful but also bust a few snarky comments out as well... I guess because the answer may be obvious to them...

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#2404522 22-Jan-2020 12:26

It's a fair amount of moderation overhead to make a system like that work. Unless @freitasm can automate something. It would mean we as mods would have to go into each person's account and make some adjustment every time someone gets pulled up on something.

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#2404523 22-Jan-2020 12:28

gehenna:

It's a fair amount of moderation overhead to make a system like that work. Unless @freitasm can automate something. It would mean we as mods would have to go into each person's account and make some adjustment every time someone gets pulled up on something.

True true. And then you may have to remove a Wheaton point and add a Dlck move point to the other person lol. I see a lot of admin :)

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#2404529 22-Jan-2020 12:41

gehenna:

I'd have thought +1's are a good indication of that. E.G. if you've got a high number of posts but a low number of +1's then you're not doing so well in the view of your peers on the forum.

a few of us around here could game that ;)

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#2404581 22-Jan-2020 13:46

Sounds like a great opportunity for big data analytics/AI and the use of sentiment analysis of posts for something like positive/negative/neutral and tallying up to form a score/measure per member.

Try it out here https://www.paralleldots.com/sentiment-analysis

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#2404660 22-Jan-2020 14:33

gehenna:

It's a fair amount of moderation overhead to make a system like that work. Unless @freitasm can automate something. It would mean we as mods would have to go into each person's account and make some adjustment every time someone gets pulled up on something.

Perhaps moderators could have a +1/-1 button similar to the current +1 button which increments or decrements said Wheaton Level?

But I'd still argue it would be quite subjective and perhaps more of a useful private tool for mods than something that should be publicly visible... At which point one wonders if it's even that useful because I'm sure the mods already have a fair idea of who the "troublemakers" are.

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#2404673 22-Jan-2020 14:55

sidefx: I'm sure the mods already have a fair idea of who the "troublemakers" are.

Correct

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#2404713 22-Jan-2020 15:28

I think this would be as helpful as introducing a "-1" feature, which has been mentioned and discussed previously, and knocked back for good reason.

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#2404723 22-Jan-2020 15:36

If there is anyone that would be classified as a dick, rest assured the person wouldn't last long.

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#2404726 22-Jan-2020 15:37

freitasm:

If there is anyone that would be classified as a dick, rest assured the person wouldn't last long.

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#2405119 23-Jan-2020 08:15

OK - I know we have covered this before but I'm a casual Star Trek fan, not a true Trekkie...what's a Wheaton Level, when it's not on the Enterprise?

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#2405122 23-Jan-2020 08:20

Read the link on the FUG.

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#2405128 23-Jan-2020 08:36

Handsomedan:

OK - I know we have covered this before but I'm a casual Star Trek fan, not a true Trekkie...what's a Wheaton Level, when it's not on the Enterprise?

Here's a background on Wheaton's Law.

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