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  #109359 8-Feb-2008 21:19
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Another question is Do you have ADSL coming down your line already or are you on dialup as VFX will only work on broadband so if that is the case you will need to purchase some hardware to get the VFX service or if you havent you ring Xnet to arrange to have broadband put on your line. If you havent got any broadband router your best bet would be to purchase a Linksys WAG54GP2v2 as this has the broadband router and VFX service built into one unit. Once you have setup the broadband side of it then you can ring xnet back and arrange for the VFX side to be done. They will give you a local VFX number for your area. All you have to do on your part is tell them the mac address a series of letters and numbers on the unit and they will hook you up to their VFX service.
Try this phone out for a while and if you like what you got then you can choose whether you want to go for Xnet fusion or not. Xnet fusion is where you have naked dsl coming down your phoneline so there will be no dialtone on your Telecom phoneline but still will be on the VFX phone. Hope this helps



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  #109361 8-Feb-2008 21:25
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Niel: Oh, where did I miss the non-VoBB option? I really need those cheap Warehouse glasses!

Here's the thread where it was first discussed Niel:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=65&TopicId=18583

I had seen references to this on another forum and made a point of confirming its existence with a Senior WxC Staffer before posting that thread.  It isn't publicised anywhere on WxC's web site as I guess they would prefer to sign people up to the full product that does include VoIP.

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I tried the Xnet Line Check and this is the message I got:

"The number you have entered either does not exist or is a number in another service provider's network."

Should I be concern about that?? after all I have only just register my phone line with Telecom a few days ago.



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  #109783 11-Feb-2008 07:48
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The line check database is only updated periodically, with your line being brand new you will have to wait for the next time the database is updated if you want to use that function.

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  #111260 17-Feb-2008 19:56
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Niel: Actually at this stage if you are not with Telecom then you first need to switch to Telecom before switching to Fusion!

OK now my Telecom phone line has been switched to TelstraClear (5 of my flatmates wanted a different plan). So that left me with another phone line (which I'm not sure if its working since it doesnt make any sound but I'm pretty certain its a separate line) in the house. Does that mean I still have to contact Telecom (again??) to connect their phone line (and get their number) and only after that I could install Xnet Fusion?? Isn't that  troublesome??? Can't I just connect a new phone line through Xnet?
Do I even need a new line? I thought Naked DSL dont need a phone. I know I dont need a phone, I just need broadband!

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  #111262 17-Feb-2008 20:03
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mus1402: Does that mean I still have to contact Telecom (again??) to connect their phone line (and get their number) and only after that I could install Xnet Fusion?? Isn't that  troublesome??? Can't I just connect a new phone line through Xnet?

YES you can!

If your phone line is currently unconnected, Xnet can provision Fusion onto it from start to finish.

You just need to tell Xnet the exact street address and they will take it from there.

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  #111267 17-Feb-2008 20:29
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... and make it clear it is the unused pair/line not the connected one.  Apparently it is a lot easier to do if the line is not connected.




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  #111268 17-Feb-2008 20:35
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grant_k:
mus1402: Does that mean I still have to contact Telecom (again??) to connect their phone line (and get their number) and only after that I could install Xnet Fusion?? Isn't that  troublesome??? Can't I just connect a new phone line through Xnet?

YES you can!

If your phone line is currently unconnected, Xnet can provision Fusion onto it from start to finish.

You just need to tell Xnet the exact street address and they will take it from there.

Cheers,
Grant.

Wow that was a quick response. Thanks for that:)

That leaves me to decide Fusion or FloodUndecided..hmm

Last time I checked 50GB => Fusion ($121.15) and Flood ($101.15). Both managed data usage.
So Fusion is $20 more than Flood. Isn't Fusion suppose to be cheaper??

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  #111269 17-Feb-2008 20:38
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mus1402:
Last time I checked 50GB => Fusion ($121.15) and Flood ($101.15). Both managed data usage.
So Fusion is $20 more than Flood. Isn't Fusion suppose to be cheaper??


If you choose River or Flood, you'd need a landline which has an additional charge per month. With fusion, the fusion monthly charge is all you'll pay.




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  #111275 17-Feb-2008 20:55
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mus1402: Last time I checked 50GB => Fusion ($121.15) and Flood ($101.15). Both managed data usage.
So Fusion is $20 more than Flood. Isn't Fusion suppose to be cheaper??

As Cokemaster says, you need to factor in the cost of a landline with any of the standard Xnet plans such as Flood.

The true comparison then becomes:

Fusion $120.95

Flood  $100.95 + $45 (approx.) = $145.95

As you can see, there's a good saving to be had by going with Fusion, and you also have only one bill to pay, vs. Xnet + Telecom in the Flood case.

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  #111417 18-Feb-2008 17:01
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grant_k:
mus1402: Does that mean I still have to contact Telecom (again??) to connect their phone line (and get their number) and only after that I could install Xnet Fusion?? Isn't that  troublesome??? Can't I just connect a new phone line through Xnet?

YES you can!

If your phone line is currently unconnected, Xnet can provision Fusion onto it from start to finish.

You just need to tell Xnet the exact street address and they will take it from there.

Cheers,
Grant.

So how much would Xnet charge me for connecting phone line?

I have a couple more questions, please bear with me: 

  1. I found a router (D-Link ADSL Router DSL-504G/TX) in my new house, which I guess it belonged to the old tenant. So my question is could I still use that for Fusion?or do I need to buy a new one? If so, can I buy from Xnet? How much does it cost?
  2. I live in Kelburn, Wellington. Will I get the same speed as those staying in Wellington CBD?
  3. What's the daily usage limit for fusion?

Please someone let me know as soon as you can. Cheers.

 
 
 
 

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  #111445 18-Feb-2008 19:29
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mus1402: So how much would Xnet charge me for connecting phone line?

I don't know exactly, but Telecom charge about $49 to re-connect an existing phone line which has previously been connected.

I suggest you call WxC to get confirmation of what their charge would be.

mus1402: I found a router (D-Link ADSL Router DSL-504G/TX) in my new house, which I guess it belonged to the old tenant. So my question is could I still use that for Fusion?or do I need to buy a new one?

You can use it for broadband, but it won't support the VFX phone service.

You have 2 choices:

1)  Buy a PAP2T to use with your existing router.  Cost about $96.
2)  Buy a WAG54P2 to replace your existing router.  Cost about $211.

Option (2) is the better choice because it supports QoS to guarantee the quality of your voice calls.
mus1402: If so, can I buy from Xnet? How much does it cost?

Sorry, Xnet does not sell hardware.

I suggest buying from Ascent:

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=349494

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=8102249 

mus1402: What's the daily usage limit for fusion?

There is NO Limit.  But you will pay $1.02 per GB for your usage.  You can set a Data Cap if you wish, via the on-line portal.

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  #111477 18-Feb-2008 21:30
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grant_k:

1)  Buy a PAP2T to use with your existing router.  Cost about $96.
2)  Buy a WAG54P2 to replace your existing router.  Cost about $211.

A PAP2T won't work with this config, as the 504T only has one LAN port. Better is to use the SPA2102 so:
504T --> SPA2102 --> PC

If you have more than one PC, then the WAG as Grant suggests, or WRTP54G is an other good option.




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  #111480 18-Feb-2008 22:02
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Cheers for that Coffeebaron; I forgot to check how many LAN ports that D-Link unit had.

As you say, WRTP54G is another good option in this case, costing about $169:

http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=351851

I have one of these myself, and it's great, much better than the SPA2102.

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  #111855 20-Feb-2008 14:21
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grant_k:
1)  Buy a PAP2T to use with your existing router.  Cost about $96.
2)  Buy a WAG54P2 to replace your existing router.  Cost about $211.

WRTP54G is another good option in this case, costing about $169.



Everything looks great except what if I don't want to use VFX and just use normal broadband data instead? which router should I be buying then? I noticed most of the router above provide QoS for VoIP. I don't want that. I just want a normal broadband. Any help?

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