[WXC/VFX] Will we see some more competitive pricing for VFX now?

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#622063 9-May-2012 09:03

Oops your right lol i was using the fusion prices as thats what i was on but i see that the cheaper of the two does not nclude the tolls so should really be

Naked Fyx $59.34
Xnet VFX $11.50 + $20 for tolls
15gb @ $0.34 = $5.10
Total $95.94

Which makes Fyx a little cheaper than Xnets $99 Fusion Plan. Obviously the no tolls5gig comparison would see Fyx do better again. If I was a low data user then that would not inspire me to change from what is a good product with good service.

I am not a low user and since the plans announcement i now only have phoneline with Xnet but I can and would recommend them for any low usage user as the quality is always worth it.

Cheers Xnet it was fun while it lasted and obviously thanks to Cameron and Maverick too for their help and contributions both to me and on here in general.

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#622126 9-May-2012 11:27

I just changed from my old Fusion II to Naked HSI 50 + 11$ for VFX Will end up saving us a lot of money.. was thinking of moving to Slingshot/Orcon but Xnet have always Treated us nicely.

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#622143 9-May-2012 12:03

jtbthatsme: If we're going to do a comparison please get it right or at least the same for each provider

Naked Fyx $59.34
Xnet VFX $11.50 + $20 for the toll calls
5gb @ $0.34 = $1.70
Total $92.54

Xnet for the above $75 so Xnet is cheaper it's not until you start adding data @$0.34 that the two start to even out

If you change the data amount to 30 gig they're basically the same $101 or $100 all figures obviously give or take a few cents.

Xnet have put plans out that for high data users are not that attractive and athough $0.34 cents per gig is a lot better than Xnets price both for high data users are not that attractive eg add $100 worth of data on to each of the above you've got one plan at $192 for 300 gig and the other at 105 gig for $175 and to take a look at other providers high end offerings for that mney your getting a lot more data. With Fyx and Xnet though you literally pay for what you use so if only use 10 gig in a month your better off than the other providers.

I did get it right, not everyone wants or needs to add a supercap calling package of $19.95 that gives you a 1000minutes on top of the standard VFX price of $11.50

Fyx + VFX

Nakied Fyx $59.34
Xnet VFX $11.50
18GB @ 0.34c/1GB $6.12

= $76.96

30GB would be $81.04

Xnet Fusion

Fusion $70.00
18GB @ 0.99c/1GB + 5GB inc $12.87

= $82.87

30GB would be $94.75

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#622312 9-May-2012 16:15

Niel: Ah, it is not just me getting tired of people saying XNet is not competitive.

They aren't competitive. I speak as someone who has VFX at home, DVX at work, family/friends on XNet AND I'm an ex-dealer (that division was sold to another company some years back).

I find it perplexing that XNet haven't got any new stuff coming out - look at the market - Vodafone, Orcon, Maxnet, Snap and even the incumbent and behemoth Telecom has had changes that benefit their customers. The only other company to still be sitting on their hands is TelstraClear.

XNet's social offerings aren't much better - all those other companies are active on Facebook/Twitter. Xnet isn't.

Not sure what XNet are waiting for, but if they keep waiting, they'll lose the massive head-start they gained with pay-as-you-go and the rock solid VFX/DVX VoIP platform.

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#622385 9-May-2012 17:41

nate:
Not sure what XNet are waiting for, but if they keep waiting, they'll lose the massive head-start they gained with pay-as-you-go and the rock solid VFX/DVX VoIP platform.

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#622608 9-May-2012 23:40

As a long-time XNet customer (minimal tolls, VfX, 100GB+ per month), I was surprised to get a phone call from someone in XNet sales, to say that there were new plans coming out.

And then a second phone call on a Sunday afternoon to say much the same thiing.

But the offerings are totally underwhelming, for my usage profile. I emailed them back to raise several points, and have not received any response.

Very disappointing.

So now I'm checking out other options (eg FYX, Pla.Net, etc)

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#622680 10-May-2012 09:12

Has anyone stopped to concider that Xnet may feel they made a mistake with the torrent plan and don't want users using upwards of 50GB per month? I personally wanted more data so I have Naked DSL from Vodafone and VfX from Xnet, works great

Hmmmm

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#622710 10-May-2012 09:49

I too wonder if this is all intentional and they are trying to encourage a userbase of voip and low usage customers - letting the other companies fight over the high usage customers?
like has already been mentioned by others, it makes sense to combine a vfx line with the naked offerings of other companies if you are a high usage customer - the more you use the more sense it makes. At this stage I am a low usage customer so will stay the Fusion for everything, but if my patterns have an upwards trend (which no doubt they will), then if Xnet don't adjust, I too will be taking the dsl component to another company.

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#622720 10-May-2012 10:06

E3xtc: I too wonder if this is all intentional and they are trying to encourage a userbase of voip and low usage customers - letting the other companies fight over the high usage customers?
like has already been mentioned by others, it makes sense to combine a vfx line with the naked offerings of other companies if you are a high usage customer - the more you use the more sense it makes.

I think this is a perceptive comment. WxC probably wouldn't come out and say as much in so many words, but by tailoring their plans in the way they have done, they are encouraging customers to leave who don't fit their preferred business model.

Myself, I ditched Xnet's ISP offering over 4 years ago for Snap and an alternate wireless operator at the two properties we owned back then. Through all that time though, I have stuck with VFX after having tried both iTalk and 2Talk and being very disappointed. There isn't any other VoIP offering that fits so well with my calling patterns, and the reliability as well as the customer service has been exemplary. The recent price reduction to 22c/min for Fixed-to-Mobile calls goes some way toward rectifying my only gripe with VFX. All other calling rates are about as good as you'd get anywhere.

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#622757 10-May-2012 10:58

My post will probably sound harsh, but this topic frustrates me to no end.

I think they must know they have a captive market in these new subdivisions so might as well milk it while they can... Just do enough to keep the ComCom off their back.

Anyone who is able to shop around and doesn't do so is just their cream.

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#622764 10-May-2012 11:10

Ham: My post will probably sound harsh, but this topic frustrates me to no end.

I think they must know they have a captive market in these new subdivisions so might as well milk it while they can... Just do enough to keep the ComCom off their back.

Anyone who is able to shop around and doesn't do so is just their cream.

Though to be fair I do have to say the new plan is going to save me about $30/month... Still, I agree with previous posters saying there should be a 0 after the data caps.

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#622870 10-May-2012 13:49

Going, going, gone, After 6 years with Xnet / VFX - I waited patiently for some better plans to be revealed..... alas they were somewhat underwhelming to say the least.

Just signed up with FYX but keeping my VFX line as the service and quality has been great (virtually no issues)

If Xnet do want to retain medium use (40Gb per month) customers, then they will need to sharpen the pencil on the current offerings -

Thanks Maverick and others for the over the top service...but with teens in the house who want to use the net at all hours of the day the torrent plan was not cut out for us. I'll be back if FYX doesn't work out and you come up with better medium to heavy use plans.

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#622877 10-May-2012 14:10

No problems guys, the plans are not going to suit every one and there are a lot of reason behind plans, every one will have an opinion (or conspiracy theory) around why, we are very well aware of the other plans out there but we would not every run a product at a loss let me tell you... the others can kill themselves cutting each others throats if they wish , our plans will be an option for different types of users, up to everyone to find ones that suit their needs.

If the plans don't suit there are plenty of other options for every bodies different needs, we like our customers and greatly value them and will always try to provide the best service around, VFX can be used on any connection as it is used today as a lot of you post here and with that you get the support and reliability of the best VoIP service around with it .... IMHO and yes I am biased :).

Plans will always adjust and were always sorry to see customers go and welcome the ones that come on board, the good thing with VFX is that for those that love the service, its available from anyway and we will still love ya no matter who you are with.

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#622942 10-May-2012 15:54

maverick - is there anything in the pipeline coming? I do find it strange that all the other ISPs have launched something in the last month, yet the WxC camp has been quiet.

Is something massive about to launch? ;)

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#623027 10-May-2012 17:14

nate: maverick - is there anything in the pipeline coming? I do find it strange that all the other ISPs have launched something in the last month, yet the WxC camp has been quiet.

Is something massive about to launch? ;)

What "something" have the other ISP's launched - apart from big chucks of data giveaways to grab some market share?

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