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juha

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#11328 16-Jan-2007 11:40
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Check it out...

If the pricing gets anywhere near that level, will Telecom be forced to match it?




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  #58050 16-Jan-2007 11:50
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Hmmm, they'll definitely have to have a rethink.  Although is this pricing based on a user having to have a vodafone mobile which can then become a homeline when in the vicinity of their home?  This may not be attractiove to some, but I AM DEFINITELY keen on this idea. 




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  #58051 16-Jan-2007 11:52
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Could be $9.95 a month per At Home number, but nothing's officially announced yet.




 
 
 
 


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  #58053 16-Jan-2007 12:00
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Very interesting indeed.. Backs up a rumor I heard before Xmas about the price point.


I'll put my non existant credibility on the line with my prediction as to how Telecom will combat ULL and Vodafone


 

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  #58059 16-Jan-2007 12:44
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Sounds good to me. Thanks for the info Juha. Good on ya Vodafone!

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  #58061 16-Jan-2007 13:03
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good pricing man, will be keen on this

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  #58071 16-Jan-2007 13:41
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sbiddle: Very interesting indeed.. Backs up a rumor I heard before Xmas about the price point.


I'll put my non existant credibility on the line with my prediction as to how Telecom will combat ULL and Vodafone


 

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That's right folks - pay $50 for your line rental and get free broadband.



Hmmmm... very nice crystal ball you have!  Things are ceratinly going to get interesting!!!




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  #58073 16-Jan-2007 13:45
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I don't see how Telecom can do that, unless it gets out of wholesale DSL completely.




 
 
 
 


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  #58075 16-Jan-2007 14:17
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I wonder how big is the home zone and how it will can be measured. I think it will be useless if it is less than 5km. Also, how are they going to know? maybe by measuring which cell tower you are using? well? i live in a place where i can take up signals from 5 cell towers jumping... does it mean that it has to be covering all those areas?

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  #58076 16-Jan-2007 14:20
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juha: I don't see how Telecom can do that, unless it gets out of wholesale DSL completely.


It's very easy to do it..

Remember for the past 10 years Telecom have been living in a world where their APRU for many residential customers doubled overnight with the uptake of the interweb. This meant Telecom's ~$32 line rental in the early 90's doubled with customers who chose dialup internet with Telecom. Now 10 years later and with the rollout of the NGN soon Telecom are moving to an IP based network where the sole purpose of the copper to your house is no longer to deliver a POTS phone service but deliver an IP jackpoint to your wall. Rather than people paying $50 for a phone line rental they will soon be paying $50 for an internet connection that delivers VoIP to the customer. Every other telco who takes advantage of naked DSL will be doing exactly the same thing. The inflated APRU's that Telecom have had are going to drop and there is nothing they can do but accept that it will happen. Telecom either keep customers by offering them a deal like this or they lose them to another ISP and that same copper circuit will then be generating maybe $20 as a naked DSL circuit. Which makes better sence for Telecom?


It's simple stuff really.  And remember the TSO doesn't apply to the NGN.

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mailmonster: I wonder how big is the home zone and how it will can be measured. I think it will be useless if it is less than 5km. Also, how are they going to know? maybe by measuring which cell tower you are using? well? i live in a place where i can take up signals from 5 cell towers jumping... does it mean that it has to be covering all those areas?


The network knows your location - the more sites you get coverage from the more accurate it is an pinpointing your location.


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  #58078 16-Jan-2007 14:23
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In Germany, the Zu Hause service is set up with a two-kilometre radius. That's not to say the NZ service will be the same of course.




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  #58079 16-Jan-2007 14:26
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juha: In Germany, the Zu Hause service is set up with a two-kilometre radius. That's not to say the NZ service will be the same of course.



thanks for this, juha. viewing that page in English now via google's transator
i wish it would be better if it can be bigger than 2km though here...it would be good if that is 10 - 20 km

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  #58080 16-Jan-2007 14:29
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Hmm, wouldn't a 20km radius mean most of Auckland was covered (40km diameter circle)?




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  #58081 16-Jan-2007 14:38
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juha: Hmm, wouldn't a 20km radius mean most of Auckland was covered (40km diameter circle)?


while i do agree with you that is quite huge at 20km, i think this will be so attractive and vodafone will increase its market share rapidly.. especially commercial ones!

also, i guess it might be more favorable for ppl who works and lives in city/newmarket (for Aucklanders)... that would work wonders for them...

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  #58084 16-Jan-2007 14:46
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I think you'll find that discounted plans for calls to designated numbers will be used instead of a large-radius At Home.




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