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Topic # 127529 13-Aug-2013 18:14
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My friend got the Xnet Fibre at home, but he doesn't like the WRP400 which provided by the ISP.  He bought a Linksys X3000 and tried to set this one up as the modem/router, but he couldn't get it work properly. I am going to help him tomorrow, can anyone give me some suggestions before I go? Will this X3000 work with the Xnet Fibre? What sort of setting I need to make on the X3000 to make it working?  Thanks.

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  Reply # 876668 13-Aug-2013 18:35
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The X3000 if I am not mistaken is an Adsl modem/router which cannot replace the Linksys/Cisco WRP400 and not be used for fibre internet. However if it has a WAN port on it, then can be used as a wireless AP replacing the wireless on WRP400 - if this was your friend's intention: to get a wireless router with better wireless signal in the house.

If the X3000 does not have a WAN port then it is useless, take it back and exchange it for a wireless router/AP ONLY without a built in modem.

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  Reply # 876687 13-Aug-2013 19:14
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I'm pretty sure the X3000 doesn't support VLAN tagging, so you may be out of luck (unless you can convinced your ISP to provision the port to not require it).

Otherwise, if the VLAn tagging issue weren't there, you'd need to make sure the WAN type is set to Ethernet, and that the connection to the ONT is plugged in to the Ethernet WAN port, not a LAN port and not the DSL port, and configure the PPPoE settings accordingly.




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  Reply # 876710 13-Aug-2013 19:48
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If it's an older BOF subdivision VLAN10 tagging isn't required.




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  Reply # 876798 13-Aug-2013 23:11
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Thank you guys for your reply. I thought it couldn't work as a modem for the fibre either. X3000 can work as a router only, can I set it up to work with the WRP400 as a router only to get better wireless connection? There is a "cable" port at the back of X3000, I think it is WAN port, right? If I connect a cable from WRP400's ethernet port to this "cable" port on X3000, will it work to provide a better wireless connection?  Thanks.

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  Reply # 876900 14-Aug-2013 09:32
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Yes you should be able to use this as an AP after the WRP400.
If you plug a cable from the WRP to the blue Cable port it should set itself up automatically.

If it doesn't you may need to manually configure it to by disabling the "Auto" setting on the Main setup page.
Then select "Ethernet" - "Automatic Configuration - DHCP"

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  Reply # 876904 14-Aug-2013 09:38
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So it's "slow" due to trying to run of wireless? What's the structured cabling like in the home?




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  Reply # 876907 14-Aug-2013 09:41
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sico77: Yes you should be able to use this as an AP after the WRP400.
If you plug a cable from the WRP to the blue Cable port it should set itself up automatically.

If it doesn't you may need to manually configure it to by disabling the "Auto" setting on the Main setup page.
Then select "Ethernet" - "Automatic Configuration - DHCP"


This will typically give double NAT which should ideally be avoided at all costs.

If you're going to use as a router as an AP you should disable DHCP and plug into the LAN port on the destination router, not the WAN port.


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  Reply # 876943 14-Aug-2013 10:17
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That configuration would tax the user in configuring IP on all his Wireless NICs.
If he's using I-products, smart phones that roam it will mean manually configuration for separate locations.

Most TCP sessions will go through double nat ok.
But if there are issues it would be better to disable NAT on the X3000 and set it up for DHCP relay.

 

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  Reply # 877013 14-Aug-2013 11:35
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sico77: That configuration would tax the user in configuring IP on all his Wireless NICs.
If he's using I-products, smart phones that roam it will mean manually configuration for separate locations.

Most TCP sessions will go through double nat ok.
But if there are issues it would be better to disable NAT on the X3000 and set it up for DHCP relay.

 


It won't require manual configuration because the WRP400 is still doing the routing and handing out DHCP. By disabling DHCP on the X3000 it would be doing nothing more than acting as a L2 bridge and acting as an AP. No configuration is required on any devices.

If you're wanting an AP however the best option is to still buy an actual AP, not a router.

The fact most TCP traffic will work OK through NAT is a bit of a moot point - there are lots of things that will break which is why it should be avoided if at all possible.











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  Reply # 878081 14-Aug-2013 13:11
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coffeebaron: So it's "slow" due to trying to run of wireless? What's the structured cabling like in the home?


I just clarified with my friend, his problem is that the coverage and the strength of the wireless signal from WRP400 is too weak, so he bought a X3000 and expected to get a better wireless coverage in the house.
If I use the X3000 only as a AP, will it solve this problem?

Thanks.

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  Reply # 878102 14-Aug-2013 13:44
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jamespeng:
coffeebaron: So it's "slow" due to trying to run of wireless? What's the structured cabling like in the home?


I just clarified with my friend, his problem is that the coverage and the strength of the wireless signal from WRP400 is too weak, so he bought a X3000 and expected to get a better wireless coverage in the house.
If I use the X3000 only as a AP, will it solve this problem?

Thanks.


Solves the issue of getting it to work but not necessarily the issue of signal, Linksys UFO style modems are known for having fairly bad wifi coverage.




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  Reply # 878104 14-Aug-2013 13:48
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Fibre to the Home installs are usually installed inside a metal cabinet on one side of the house.

The wireless will attenuate severly because of that cabinet, so having a Wireless AP away from the cabinet and more central to the house will definitely help.

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