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Topic # 152225 20-Sep-2014 12:41
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Have vodafone just released new cable plans with lower speed (100 instead of 130)?

I just upgraded to unlimited 130/10 for 105/month - can I change to 100/10 for $85?

Interesting - wonder why they've made the change? 

Any other differences between the 130/10 plan and the 100/10? 



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  Reply # 1132664 20-Sep-2014 12:41
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

 

- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap

 


 

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Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

 



 

- Your ISP and plan

 


 

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

 


 

- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)

 


 

- Your general location (or street)

 


 

- If you are rural or urban

 


 

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

 


 

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- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

 



 

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

 



 

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)

 


 

- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?




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  Reply # 1132681 20-Sep-2014 12:51
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When you look at the bottom of the page it states 
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Broadband

 

  • Ultra Fast 50 – up to 50 Mbps download, 2 Mbps upload. Ultra Fast 130 – up to 130 Mbps download, 10 Mbps upload"
maybe a typo? or are they not able to provide 130mbps anymore?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1132692 20-Sep-2014 13:16
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Either way I'm comfortable with 100mb even if it is 30mb less than 130.... for a $20 saving ... I only have the big plan for the 10mb upload speed anyway....

Now to extract the price change from vodafone... wish me luck!

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  Reply # 1132699 20-Sep-2014 13:28
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They are currently working on upgrading the HFC network so you may see higher downloads and uploads than that.




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  Reply # 1133599 22-Sep-2014 12:54

Correct, for new customers or existing customers who wish to change, there has been a a 30Mbps reduction in speeds and a corresponding $20.00 drop in monthly pricing as cable and fibre speeds are aligned.

As mentioned, work is being done to increase cable speeds further - and if you're happy on 130Mbps, you do not have to change (Unless you're moving house). :)

vortexnz: Either way I'm comfortable with 100mb even if it is 30mb less than 130.... for a $20 saving ... I only have the big plan for the 10mb upload speed anyway....

Now to extract the price change from vodafone... wish me luck!


Let me know if you don't have any joy there and I can take a look for you.




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  Reply # 1133616 22-Sep-2014 13:05
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Are we likely to see an increase to upload speed on the 50mbit plan?

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  Reply # 1133632 22-Sep-2014 13:26

D.W: Are we likely to see an increase to upload speed on the 50mbit plan?


No word on that yet, still too early. :)




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  Reply # 1133863 22-Sep-2014 16:28
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On the voda website it has ultra fast naked broadband fibre for $85.  When I click the link for 100/20 the price increases to $95 but the txt also changes to include a home phone.  Does that mean I am eligible for 6mos free sky also? Great to see Voda embracing the new plans.

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  Reply # 1133885 22-Sep-2014 16:44

Chewy: On the voda website it has ultra fast naked broadband fibre for $85.  When I click the link for 100/20 the price increases to $95 but the txt also changes to include a home phone.  Does that mean I am eligible for 6mos free sky also? Great to see Voda embracing the new plans.


Good catch, I'll have the web team update that - the home phone text is in error.




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  Reply # 1133901 22-Sep-2014 16:58
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@NikT: You may also want to remove / update this page for the sake of clarity....   

http://customerzone.vodafone.co.nz/residential/inhome/internet/naked-broadband.cfm

I got to it after logging into Customer Zone then browsing pricing plans available.



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  Reply # 1133903 22-Sep-2014 17:02

Those are there for the benefit of the customers who are still on those packages and just wish to change usage tier rather than package.

There was a big flashy note at the top of the page to the tune of 'These are grandfathered legacy plans and are no longer sold, please head to vodafone.co.nz for current plan information,' but this showed up in Customer Zone as well, which was confusing for new cable and fibre customers, so it was removed. I would imagine the rest will be removed soon.




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  Reply # 1133923 22-Sep-2014 17:23
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That makes sense - missed that clearly.

Looking forward to the increased upload speeds - should they ever occur :-)

Hypothetically speaking, does the HFC network have any thereoretical limitations in terms of upload bandwidth relative to download bandwidth? I understand at least historically cable was designed as asynchronous for Cable tv - not needing much upload bandwidth?





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  Reply # 1133929 22-Sep-2014 17:25
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@NikT again - on the vodafone.co.nz page for ordering Naked Cable it still suggests 130mb instead of 100mb in the details... 

 

What's included

 

 

Data allowance

 

  • 80GB per month, or
  • Unlimited data
Broadband

 

  • Ultra Fast 50 – up to 50 Mbps download, 2 Mbps upload. Ultra Fast 130 – up to 130 Mbps download, 10 Mbps upload

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  Reply # 1133940 22-Sep-2014 17:32
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vortexnz: That makes sense - missed that clearly.

Looking forward to the increased upload speeds - should they ever occur :-)

Hypothetically speaking, does the HFC network have any thereoretical limitations in terms of upload bandwidth relative to download bandwidth? I understand at least historically cable was designed as asynchronous for Cable tv - not needing much upload bandwidth?




Cable bandwidth is split into channels for both up and down; docsis3 standard increased the number of channels but required a new modem to get the speeds. on my 50/2 plans I have 8 channels down and 2 up; but of course there is layer 3 limits in effect as well.

As always wikipedia is your friend for raw technology.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Speed_tables

But practical reality means the design of the ex_TCL network, number of channels actually available, capability and vintage of the broadcasting equipment, and Vodafone's desire to invest in new gear (severely doubt any new cable investment will be happening - why would you when chorus are serving fibre up like chips.....)....






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  Reply # 1133947 22-Sep-2014 17:47

vortexnz: That makes sense - missed that clearly.

Looking forward to the increased upload speeds - should they ever occur :-)

Hypothetically speaking, does the HFC network have any thereoretical limitations in terms of upload bandwidth relative to download bandwidth? I understand at least historically cable was designed as asynchronous for Cable tv - not needing much upload bandwidth?




Yep, DOCSIS as a standard is fundamentally asymmetric because cable TV networks are built with content delivery to the home in mind rather than content delivery from the home. DOCSIS is to cable TV networks as xDSL is to copper telephony networks - both are standards that aim to utilise existing infrastructure for high-speed internet access, so both have limitations due to the nature of that existing infrastructure.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS

Submitted a request for that speed info to be corrected last week, will give the team a poke. :)




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