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Topic # 157460 2-Dec-2014 10:17
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I've been living under a rock for the past few weeks so might have missed something but just received a letter from VF saying their reducing the speed of my UFB contract on 11 Dec from 200/50 to 200/20.

How and Why ??

The whole reason I signed up to this plan was for the upload so now may as well reduce to 100/20 if it's no longer going to be available.

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  Reply # 1186858 2-Dec-2014 10:17
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

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- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

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  Reply # 1186873 2-Dec-2014 10:20
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There's an existing (closed) thread about this.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=157289



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  Reply # 1186878 2-Dec-2014 10:26
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Behodar: There's an existing (closed) thread about this.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=157289


Oh thanks; however I see that thread died an ugly death without any real resolution other than 'VF says GFYS'..



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  Reply # 1186885 2-Dec-2014 10:43
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kenkeniff: Oh thanks; however I see that thread died an ugly death without any real resolution other than 'VF says GFYS'..


I don't think any amount of talking about it is going to resolve the issue. Vodafone will have a clause in their contract allowing them to make changes or cease offering services. I can understand from their point of view why they would want to do this if it means a bigger profit for them (different pricing structure for new fibre plans) and a simplified range of products.

Given the services are varied in a way which is significant, you could probably use it to get out of a term contract if you have one. I wouldn't take "no" for an answer myself. It's up to you if you want to move or stay where you are, although that is easier said than done if you have bundled services. I refuse to bundle services because of possibilities like this.



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  Reply # 1186888 2-Dec-2014 10:51
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The first challenge will be actually getting hold of them..

The "customer assurance" number goes to "dev > null".



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  Reply # 1186907 2-Dec-2014 11:22
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Finally managed to get through; took a downgrade to 100/20 and some credit.

Hopefully it all applies correctly.

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  Reply # 1186925 2-Dec-2014 11:40
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I wouldn't downgrade. I'd pay the release fee and leave. Go to BigPipe.

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  Reply # 1186927 2-Dec-2014 11:42
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ckc: I wouldn't downgrade. I'd pay the release fee and leave. Go to BigPipe.


On what, VDSL2 or at worst ADSL2+? That's a pretty big step backwards.





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  Reply # 1186928 2-Dec-2014 11:45
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If a provider changes the terms or conditions of a contract which they are entitled to do, the Telco's and ISP's should allow customers to elect out of the contract without penalty if they ask to do so within say 14 days of notification of change.




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  Reply # 1186929 2-Dec-2014 11:45
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ckc: I wouldn't downgrade. I'd pay the release fee and leave. Go to BigPipe.


On what, VDSL2 or at worst ADSL2+? That's a pretty big step backwards.






Or whoever's in the area that isn't reducing the speed of their plans then. I don't know where OP is.

Why would you assume that if he can't have VF UFB he can't have anything else?

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  Reply # 1186933 2-Dec-2014 11:47
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KiwiNZ: If a provider changes the terms or conditions of a contract which they are entitled to do, the Telco's and ISP's should allow customers to elect out of the contract without penalty if they ask to do so within say 14 days of notification of change.


Next year (March I think), the unfair contracts provisions of the CGA comes into force. Contracts signed after that time won't include things like change or cancellation rights afforded to one party but not the other. If you signed up for a specific plan, I totally agree that you should be getting that plan, and if they no longer offer it, you should be allowed to take your business elsewhere.

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  Reply # 1186941 2-Dec-2014 11:50
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ckc:
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ckc: I wouldn't downgrade. I'd pay the release fee and leave. Go to BigPipe.


On what, VDSL2 or at worst ADSL2+? That's a pretty big step backwards.






Or whoever's in the area that isn't reducing the speed of their plans then. I don't know where OP is.

Why would you assume that if he can't have VF UFB he can't have anything else?


Oops getting mixed up with the many other threads on here, most of which are cable people complaining about the drop from 130 to 100.

In this case (which is also discussed in numerous other threads) it's quite simply because Vodafone can cut wholesale costs by moving to the new Accelerate plans and presumably don't want to support multiple different plan types which also introduces some backend complexities.




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  Reply # 1186968 2-Dec-2014 11:55
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I think the board and shareholders are really screwing down on the bottom line because they had flutters when they saw last FY losses. Which is fair enough, but also shortsighted and challenging customer loyalty. They're just creating a whole new generation of people who hate Vodafone, staff and customers.

Also, I'm on 100/10 and getting 130/10. :)

Edit: actually, scratch that. After the internet went down at midnight last night, this morning it's now on 100/10. So screw VF or something.

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  Reply # 1186978 2-Dec-2014 12:06
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Hi everyone

Yep, the 200/50 plan has been withdrawn, sometimes things change. We've been in contact with all affected customers individually, most will typically be moving to the 200/20 plan at a new lower price like in the letter above.

If you're included in this change and it doesn't suit you then please let us know.

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  Reply # 1187047 2-Dec-2014 12:57
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KiwiNZ: If a provider changes the terms or conditions of a contract which they are entitled to do, the Telco's and ISP's should allow customers to elect out of the contract without penalty if they ask to do so within say 14 days of notification of change.


If you read their terms and conditions it says if they change the terms and you don't like it you can bang out ...no penalty. Its on the "things you should know" link




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