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Topic # 179410 7-Sep-2015 17:29
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 So I have recently switched from Telstra cable to Fibre and have retained my static IP.  I was using a Apple Airport Extreme for my network.  I find myself now having to use a rather sizeable Huawei modem.  I am just wondering if it is possible to go back to using the Airport - if so, how?






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  Reply # 1381282 7-Sep-2015 17:57
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find an ISP who doesnt do VLAN tagging, its the only way it will work

Apple in the wise minds dont think people require that as a function on WAN routers

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  Reply # 1381283 7-Sep-2015 17:57
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You would have to setup a "Bridge" on the Huawei Router, the problem in a nutshell is the lack of VLAN tagging support in the Airport

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  Reply # 1381286 7-Sep-2015 18:10
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List of ISP's and vLAN tagging status:

 

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  Reply # 1381290 7-Sep-2015 18:26
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If your RSP needs tagging you either need to buy hardware to do the tagging or use another router. Apple don't understand that VLAN tagging is a MEF standard.



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  Reply # 1381293 7-Sep-2015 18:29
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The HG659 works well just make sure it has latest software version

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  Reply # 1381299 7-Sep-2015 18:58
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Hi Folks,

  Thanks for the replies.  Can we assume that it ought to work if there were support for VLAN tagging?   I might register an issue with Apple and see what they say.





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  Reply # 1381300 7-Sep-2015 19:06
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It's not a fault as it was not designed to support VLAN tagging

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  Reply # 1381385 7-Sep-2015 20:41
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DjShadow: You would have to setup a "Bridge" on the Huawei Router, the problem in a nutshell is the lack of VLAN tagging support in the Airport


sbiddle: If your RSP needs tagging you either need to buy hardware to do the tagging or use another router. Apple don't understand that VLAN tagging is a MEF standard.


Interesting. I would imagine in near future that we'll be looking at a switch to UFB from cable (with Vodafone). And we're using Apple Airport Extreme as well, with cable modem bridging to the Airport Extreme WAN.

However, what you guys said, Vodafone UFB has VLAN tagging, would that not work if just bridging the UFB modem and the WAN port on Airport Extreme - a la the current cable modem set up?




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  Reply # 1381399 7-Sep-2015 20:59
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I have recently setup UFF (Spark) with an Airport Extreme by using a Mikrotik router adding the VLan 10 tagging between the ONT and the Extreme.  There are threads on Geekzone that give the detail on how to do this. Has worked without any problem and my network that involves several airport expresses plus Apple TV with both wired and WIFI connections has not had required any changes. Very happy with the setup.

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  Reply # 1381403 7-Sep-2015 21:05
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morrisk: I have recently setup UFF (Spark) with an Airport Extreme by using a Mikrotik router adding the VLan 10 tagging between the ONT and the Extreme.  There are threads on Geekzone that give the detail on how to do this. Has worked without any problem and my network that involves several airport expresses plus Apple TV with both wired and WIFI connections has not had required any changes. Very happy with the setup.


That probably be the set up that I will probably end up doing then.

What Mikrotik router you have/are using?




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  Reply # 1381411 7-Sep-2015 21:18
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This is the one i am using - MikroTik RouterBOARD RB750 Five Port Router. I followed the guide from Steve Biddle's blog to set it up.

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morrisk: This is the one i am using - MikroTik RouterBOARD RB750 Five Port Router. I followed the guide from Steve Biddle's blog to set it up.


Ah I see. I guess it is this blog post you're referring to? http://www.geekzone.co.nz/sbiddle/8744




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Yes that's what I followed to set up the Mikrotik - I used the terminal mode approach. 

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  Reply # 1381530 8-Sep-2015 08:19
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The new Mikrotik hAP Lite would be the perfect new low cost device for this, and it's only around $40ish



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  Reply # 1381533 8-Sep-2015 08:36
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sbiddle: The new Mikrotik hAP Lite would be the perfect new low cost device for this, and it's only around $40ish




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