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#196707 9-Jun-2016 22:25
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Is it possible to use a Vodafone Sure Signal using an ISP other than Vodafone?  

 

I recall they may be able to be used if you have a static IP with another provider?

 

 


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  #1569049 9-Jun-2016 22:28
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Possible? Definitely, I've heard of it being done before. Likely? I wouldn't bet on it, maybe if you already have one, but I don't think it'll be easy to get one out of them without a Vodafone fixed line connection first.




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  #1569052 9-Jun-2016 22:30
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQxsnM-zuPc may interest you if your a bit technical.

 

its all vpn by the look of it.

 

i would say if its a dynamic ip you would just end up dropping the call when the ip changed before the call is routed to the celltower. (Dont quote me)

 

 





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  #1569057 9-Jun-2016 22:41
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Danz:

 

Is it possible to use a Vodafone Sure Signal using an ISP other than Vodafone?  

 

I recall they may be able to be used if you have a static IP with another provider?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it is possible

 

https://www.vodafone.co.uk/shop/accessories/sure-signal/ 

 

 

 

But not with the New Zealand version

 

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/mobile/3g-sure-signal/ 

 

 

 

I've always wondered what would happen with a UK one in NZ, presumably it's configured to only work on UK IP addresses. I'm sure people in Europe would have already tried that sort of thing to play with roaming.


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  #1569120 10-Jun-2016 08:04
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dylanp:

 

 

 

I've always wondered what would happen with a UK one in NZ, presumably it's configured to only work on UK IP addresses. I'm sure people in Europe would have already tried that sort of thing to play with roaming.

 

 

They use GPS to work out where they are. There are a few articles online from people who have had fun spoofing GPS signals!

 

 

 

 


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  #1569123 10-Jun-2016 08:10
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sbiddle:

dylanp:


 


I've always wondered what would happen with a UK one in NZ, presumably it's configured to only work on UK IP addresses. I'm sure people in Europe would have already tried that sort of thing to play with roaming.



They use GPS to work out where they are. There are a few articles online from people who have had fun spoofing GPS signals!


 


 



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Vodafone opened up SureSignal to other selected ISP's a while back, Not sure if anyone took them up on it tho as 1st level support for the device was going to be passed over to the ISP. At that stage GPS tracking and tower locking was not being used.





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  #1569127 10-Jun-2016 08:22
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Beccara:

Vodafone opened up SureSignal to other selected ISP's a while back, Not sure if anyone took them up on it tho as 1st level support for the device was going to be passed over to the ISP. At that stage GPS tracking and tower locking was not being used.



Last I heard from serious techs when I worked there was a no, and the site still says voda fixed line required.

 
 
 
 


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  #1569133 10-Jun-2016 08:33
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I just heard Vodafone could supply one to a Spark Fibre customer so curious if it has been opened up to all ISP's if they have a static!


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  #1569509 10-Jun-2016 16:04
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dylanp:
Beccara:

 

Vodafone opened up SureSignal to other selected ISP's a while back, Not sure if anyone took them up on it tho as 1st level support for the device was going to be passed over to the ISP. At that stage GPS tracking and tower locking was not being used.

 



Last I heard from serious techs when I worked there was a no, and the site still says voda fixed line required.

 

few out there who ild class as "serious techs" at vodafone, have said it is possible. not an officially offered service last i heard though.





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  #1569518 10-Jun-2016 16:13
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sbiddle:

 

They use GPS to work out where they are. There are a few articles online from people who have had fun spoofing GPS signals!

 

 

Can people roam onto them? If I fired up a US based femto cell here would people find they got inexplicable roaming charges for connecting to it?





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  #1569520 10-Jun-2016 16:15
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richms:

 

sbiddle:

 

They use GPS to work out where they are. There are a few articles online from people who have had fun spoofing GPS signals!

 

 

Can people roam onto them? If I fired up a US based femto cell here would people find they got inexplicable roaming charges for connecting to it?

 

 

One would have to conclude that the obvious answer would be yes.

 

 


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  #1569535 10-Jun-2016 16:20
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One would have to conclude that the obvious answer would be yes.

 

 

Since 2degrees users cant use sure signals by roaming I am not sure the answer is so obvious that you can.

 

Would be funny tho, but femto cells are too expensive to have a bit of a laugh doing that.





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  #1569613 10-Jun-2016 17:29
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dylanp:
Beccara:

 

Vodafone opened up SureSignal to other selected ISP's a while back, Not sure if anyone took them up on it tho as 1st level support for the device was going to be passed over to the ISP. At that stage GPS tracking and tower locking was not being used.

 



Last I heard from serious techs when I worked there was a no, and the site still says voda fixed line required.

 

I have heard from a couple of different sources that this has been talked about, but at this stage it has not been opened up.

 

 





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Anything is possible yes. But there are no other ISP IP ranges that can use a VFNZ Femto cell other than VFNZ at present. VFNZ zero rate all traffic to a femto cell, so you could download 100gig lets say via a mobile device attached to a femto cell and that 100gig wouldn't be shown as traffic used by the broadband connection. As mentioned GPS and cell locking as well as white listing a femto (customer being able to select what numbers can attach to it) are  used





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  #1570001 11-Jun-2016 14:46
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I understand that each VF mobile needs to be registered to the femtocell.  How many can it support?   Is it just a phone number that needs to be entered?   Can 2Degrees numbers be registered?

 

Thanks for the responses!


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