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Topic # 26903 6-Oct-2008 22:27
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I'm on an xnet vfx account.

Sooooo, I downloaded fring (an app that has sip settings amongst other things) onto my iPod 2G so I could give voip a go over my ipod (the 2G has a mic) and the settings only ask for three things; username, password and proxy. I had a squiz over the "Asterix Basic Settings" thread and took a wild guess that as.wxcnz.net might be the proxy but it didn't work. (is there a port number that goes with that?)

Soooo, my question is, have any of you guys got any idea what the proxy might be and also, which username and password are we talking about exactly? My login one for vfx?

Any helpful thoughts?
I just thought it would be cool to use my ipod as an extra handset seeing as how it's practically glued to me whereas the phone definitly is not. :)

I realize I could set up another account with an online sip provider buuuuuut I don't want to.

Thanks for any thoughts. I'll give you guys a while to ruminate on that and if nothing pans out I'll cross post to the handheld devices part of the forum.

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  Reply # 169442 6-Oct-2008 22:36
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I take it you have Fring on an iPod Touch.
As far as I'm aware, xnet don't support "soft" phones but I could be wrong with your setup. I'm curious to try it myself, but I don't have a VFX line.




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  Reply # 169444 6-Oct-2008 22:42
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You have had Xnet convert your account to a specific Asterisk one? You can't just use a standard VFX login with Asterisk, they have to make a change, as far as I am aware.



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  Reply # 169448 6-Oct-2008 22:58
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I have a standard vfx account.

I was hoping I could use my ipod touch and the fring app on it to make voip calls via my wifi.
You CAN do that with online sip providers but I want to do it with my xnet account.

You're right they don't support soft phones but I thought I could maybe figure out a way to get it to work.
Something along the lines of login with my account details to xnet and use whatever proxy they need to go through so it would still count on my bill as usual but using my ipod as the handset.

Given all the settings on the regular pap2t phone adapter for Voip though, it's probably unlikely but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. :)

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  Reply # 169451 6-Oct-2008 23:03
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JayADee: I have a standard vfx account.

I was hoping I could use my ipod touch and the fring app on it to make voip calls via my wifi.
You CAN do that with online sip providers but I want to do it with my xnet account.

You're right they don't support soft phones but I thought I could maybe figure out a way to get it to work.
Something along the lines of login with my account details to xnet and use whatever proxy they need to go through so it would still count on my bill as usual but using my ipod as the handset.

Given all the settings on the regular pap2t phone adapter for Voip though, it's probably unlikely but I thought it couldn't hurt to try. :)


It will probably be an authentication thing that stops you from using your VFX account. Would be great though




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  Reply # 169596 7-Oct-2008 14:58
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I signed up to http://www.voipstunt.com...they give you free one minute calls to a variety of countries including NZ (you have to pay for longer ones). You can also use your P.C. Since the ipod already has a preset for voipstunt all I had to type in was my username and pass. :) Now, um, I am waiting on the headphones with mic which I don't have yet so I can't actually TRY it for real but for fun I'm going to dial my home phone anyway just to hear it ring :)

A one minute phone call to landlines only isn't all that useful but I'm just playing around.

Cool!! It worked. Now I can dial home from work on my ipod and leave a message or whatever at least from the rooms I can get wifi. :)

Well! Phone call number two I talked to myself for four minutes...what happened to the one minute max thing? And no, you don't give them a credit card no. or anything like that. Sounded too quiet and echoy with the iPod internal speaker but sounded great on the headphones. I have headphones, just not mic headphones yet so I couldn't talk back to myself. ;) Probably just as well or I'd never have gotten off the phone. ;)

Pretty neat. If only the world had wifi reception I'd be laughing.

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  Reply # 169632 7-Oct-2008 18:33
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That's awesome JayADee,
keep us informed of how it goes with the microphone.
Thats the one thing I've been waiting on proof-of-concept of before getting an ipod touch.



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  Reply # 169637 7-Oct-2008 18:49
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Will do. I check the apple store daily waiting for it to come out.

I love my iPod Touch. :) I use it all the time, mostly for the wifi (web browsing, email) and audio books. I like some of the games too.

I have the 1G as well but gave it to the hubby (with much regret, lol).
That one is jailbroke and I miss it tremendously because you can totally modify the wallpaper and the icons and all sorts of preferences and on my 2G you can't. Like I had this wallpaper that changed depending on the time of day so at night it was a night scene and so on. And there's all kinds of other customising you can do.

I bought this one for the ability to get sound in via mic. I want to use it for voip and I bought the Guitar Toolkit some time back and it's going to support sound in tuning like it does for the iphone but really it's like we're on hold for any cool new stuff until the earphones with mic come out.

Can't wait to get those new earphones. :)

And hey, jermsie, you don't need a voip account to do this with these online guys. You also don't need an ipod, you can use your laptop as long as it has a mic and speakers. iPod just makes it cooler. ;)


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  Reply # 169638 7-Oct-2008 18:51
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You can't use your regular VFX settings with a 3rd party device or Asterisk. They are both seperate. VFX settings are tied to the MAC address of the device you register with.



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  Reply # 169642 7-Oct-2008 18:58
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So you need to spoof the mac address. ;)
Just kidding. :)
Besides having two devices with the same MAC would really stuff up my firewalls. ;)

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  Reply # 169648 7-Oct-2008 19:24
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JayADee: So you need to spoof the mac address. ;)
Just kidding. :)
Besides having two devices with the same MAC would really stuff up my firewalls. ;)


And know the settings. They are not the same for both.



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  Reply # 169659 7-Oct-2008 19:56
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You're a tease!
lol

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  Reply # 169795 8-Oct-2008 09:50
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Currently all SIP messages/RTP is being sent via the Fring proxies (based in Italy!) so call quality and delay are pretty bad.. 
For those looking to use Asterisk VFX settings, these will not work with Fring so it is best to keep your connections as is.
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  Reply # 169825 8-Oct-2008 11:52
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I didn't find the delay too bad..nor the quality as long as I had headphones on.

I have a NEW problem though. I bought wedict Pro and can only find TWO dictionaries to download correctly and neither of them is one of the two I really want.

It seems that trying to zip files with a pc just doesn't work...I think it requires a mac. My zip files (tried four utilities) are not being recognized either in the app or by the developers upload site.

Do any of you who have a mac want to do me the favour of unpacking two tars (safely downloaded from sourceforge) and repacking them as .zip then uploading them (either to a web site or the devs upload spot)? They aren't very big. I've been up all night trying to think of some work around but nothing is coming of it. The only ready made repository I can find has TWO working downloads.

These files would be invaluable to me at work. :)

Edit: never mind. Figured out my web pages were just taking up too much room. Temporarily copied/deleted some of it to make room for the .dict upload so hopefully I can get this horrible thing working now.

Edit two: Got it working. What a horrid process to have to go through though!!

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  Reply # 169941 8-Oct-2008 18:04
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JayADee: I didn't find the delay too bad..nor the quality as long as I had headphones on.

Because Voipstunt & Fring are both Euro based, the overall latency is much less: e.g.

Say there is 100ms between Fring & Voipstunt, then total latency is approx 500ms
300ms NZ --> Fring + 200ms Fring --> voipstunt --> Fring

But for VFX/2talk, it would be about 900ms
300ms NZ --> Fring + 600ms Fring --> NZ --> Fring

Anyway, I think that's kind of how it goes, may not have the figures quite right, e.g. don't know if there is the double latency between Fring & Voip provider.




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  Reply # 169999 8-Oct-2008 21:39
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Ahh! Thanks for the info, that's good to know for picking providers. :)


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