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#302088 27-Oct-2022 19:05
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Dear Vodafone geeks,

 

 

 

I've been trying to get a PTR record on my static IP address but nobody I spoke to at Vodafone seems to know what they are anymore.

 


My first attempt was a couple of months ago. After explaining PTR records to several people, I was told that a ticket needs to be submitted for a mistery 'technical team' to get it done for me. I never heard anything back and couldn't bring myself to call again so I dropped it for a while.

 


Last week I armed myself with patience and decided to try again. This is how it went:

 

I first tried the chat function but was told that the 'business team' sets up PTR records and I need to call 0800 438 448 to speak to them.

 

I called the 0800 number and spoke to a Christine, she was confused but I patiently explained what I was after. She seemed willing to help, found some intranet articles, put me on hold for a while, spoke to people, then told me she will have to submit a ticket for a mistery 'technical team' to get this done for me - a familiar ruse. She did promise to call me with an update, which was encouraging. Nothing happened.

 

Today (Thursday, a week later) I decided to call again. The IVR bot considered that "I want an update on my ticket" means that I want to speak to the billing team, apparently. There are no options to choose from anymore, so you're at the mercy of this thing's judgement.

 

The billing team guy I spoke to predictably had no clue what I was talking about, but he did put me on hold to check notes and speak to people. He then transferred me to the sales team because he figured that what I must mean is that I want to buy a static IP address (a second one I guess?)

 

The sales guy (I think his name was Rohit) was predictably even more confused, but I made an attempt to explain things to him so that at least he can put me through to the right people. I went on hold for a while, until he came back to explain that he's going to transfer me to a girl from the technical team.

 

The hold music stopped and the girl from the technical team started talking to me thinking she was still talking to Rohit. I informed her that I am the customer. I explained PTR records to her too and suggested there may be a ticket to check, previous notes to draw on perhaps, etc. I went on hold again.

 

She eventually came back and told to me that she checked with several senior technical experts and they said I should seek the help of a local IT tech. I politely informed her that the technical experts don't know what the hell they're talking about. I don't believe in taking my frustration out on the messenger, so I told her I'll get off the phone now, which made her very happy.

 

 

 

I am aware that this isn't a common query and I'm honestly not trying to bag on you, Vodafone. In fact, I am trying very hard to remain your customer, but it's proving difficult! Is there anyone here that can please help? 😄


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  #2988915 27-Oct-2022 19:19
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@JasonParis

 

Might be one for the Faults team at Smales Farm - assuming they're still based there?




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  #2988916 27-Oct-2022 19:36
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You are asking for something that goes beyond the knowledge of a standard CSR, they wouldn't know what a PTR record even is!

 

back in the day TelecomNZ had a complex requests email address for this stuff

 

 





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  #2988919 27-Oct-2022 19:51
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nztim:

 

You are asking for something that goes beyond the knowledge of a standard CSR, they wouldn't know what a PTR record even is!

 

back in the day TelecomNZ had a complex requests email address for this stuff

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree! I really wish they had a dedicated channel for more advanced technical queries. Or they could leverage their existing online chat and pass those queries to a group of internal geeks - not hard to do with text.

 

 

 

Unfortunately there don't appear to be any working internal channels either, which is a bit disappointing. My hope was that the CSR would be able to get some help from someone that did know.




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  #2988921 27-Oct-2022 19:55
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  #2988923 27-Oct-2022 20:00
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tudorale:

 

nztim:

 

You are asking for something that goes beyond the knowledge of a standard CSR, they wouldn't know what a PTR record even is!

 

back in the day TelecomNZ had a complex requests email address for this stuff

 

 

I agree! I really wish they had a dedicated channel for more advanced technical queries. Or they could leverage their existing online chat and pass those queries to a group of internal geeks - not hard to do with text.

 

Unfortunately there don't appear to be any working internal channels either, which is a bit disappointing. My hope was that the CSR would be able to get some help from someone that did know.

 

 

I am sure one of the Vodafone folk on here will chime in and help, but definitely agree with you if the CSR doesn't understand your request (and wouldn't expect them to in this particular case) then the CSR should escalate, alternatively publish have a "complex requests" email address for this stuff which worked really well back in the day.





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  #2988929 27-Oct-2022 20:24
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Vodafone is mass market, you probably want to switch a more business-orientated ISP that would understand this request first go.

 
 
 

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  #2988931 27-Oct-2022 20:39
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I'd love a PTR for my static, if you find a way let me know :-)





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  #2988985 28-Oct-2022 08:48
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yeah, they do PTR records. Front line can't though. They just need to raise a ticket internally to their 2nd tier support to get it actioned. As it is a bit more obscure, many front line are unlikely to ever come across the request to become familiar with it.


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  #2989023 28-Oct-2022 09:44
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The relevant XKCD comic: 

 



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  #2989074 28-Oct-2022 09:59
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Try requesting it as a reverse DNS record against your static IP. I've found that makes it easier for them to understand.

 

 


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  #2989144 28-Oct-2022 11:08
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evnafets:

 

The relevant XKCD comic: 

 

 

Accurate - reminds me of when I still had VDSL and lost sync (single jackpoint, naked VDSL, tried several modems, etc), the CSR I was speaking with insisted that we must check the modem settings because he can't see authentication on his side.

 

 

 

networkn:

 

Try requesting it as a reverse DNS record against your static IP. I've found that makes it easier for them to understand.

 

 

I have! "PTR", "reverse DNS record", "a hostname associated with my static IP address", I even gave them the "you know how a domain name resolves to an IP address" long story.

 

To her credit, the first girl I talked to last week (Christine) took the time to understand and she mostly got it / managed to find the right internal documentation on it, but unfortunately it looks like "submitting a ticket" is just a black hole and she didn't follow it up. I didn't get anywhere with everyone else I spoke to since then.


 
 
 
 

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  #2989145 28-Oct-2022 11:13
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Did you get the ticket number? If so it will be in their system somewhere.


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  #2989146 28-Oct-2022 11:17
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quickymart:

 

Did you get the ticket number? If so it will be in their system somewhere.

 

 

No, newbie mistake - I should've asked for it.


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  #2989195 28-Oct-2022 11:36
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If you have to explain how DNS works, it's the wrong person. They should be able to determine 'it's DNS' and kick it to the network team or whomever is responsible for that. 

 

To be fair I imagine they get a very small number of those requests. Business team likely gets more of them.

 

 


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  #2989211 28-Oct-2022 12:43
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Next time you’re speaking with them and they promise a call back - tell them it’s a flat out lie and if they don’t like that ask what number they will contact you back on and how they will remember to call you back as they won’t even have generated a ticket. Don’t accept a sticky note or calendar entry as again it’s a lie or will fail.

You’ve collected names but don’t be afraid to ask for spelling. Ask each time you’re transferred if indeed the next person will be able to help and who to call if they can’t. Call them back asking for them by name and advise them of the failure.




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