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Topic # 62824 15-Jun-2010 15:05
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I just did some calculations comparing the total cost of ownership for buying an iphone 32gb 3GS on a 24 month iphone plan.  I'm really surprised at the huge price difference between NZ and Australia, even when you account for the exchange rate.  It makes me want to move to Australia.

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Australian Vodafone ($79 plan)

$0 Upfront +$79 / month (24mo) = 1896 AUD = $2,340 NZD

Unlimited calls to australian vodafone mobies
Unlimited txt/pxt to national & international #s
1GB / month data

Plus

$550 credit / month to spend on the following
50c / additional MB = 1100 MB
or 120c / min phone calls (+35c flag fall) = 87 x 5 min phone calls (~435 min)

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New Zealand Vodafone ($40 plan)

$899 Upfront + $40 / month (24mo) = $1859

30 minutes
300 txt (National only, no PXT)
250MB / month

New Zealand Vodafone ($80 plan)

$799 Upfront + $80 / month (24mo) = $2719

120 minutes
600 txt (National only, no PXT)
250MB / month

New Zealand Vodafone ($250 plan)

$299 Upfront + $250 / month (24mo) = $6299

600 minutes
600 TXT (National only, no PXT)
1GB / Month

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I think the australian plan is most similar to the $250 NZ plan
So total cost: Australian plan = $2340 'vs' New Zealand plan = $6299
or per month: $97.50 'vs' $262.50

I actually prefer the Australian plan, because I can go over the 1GB of data
and it includes unlimited pxts and unlimited international txts and unlimited VF->VF calls.

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If you compare the two cheapest plans including the phone purchase price
Australia ($79AUD) plan = $97.50 / month
Vodafone ($40) plan = $77.50 / month

So your paying an extra $20, but you are getting about 10x more value




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  Reply # 341951 15-Jun-2010 15:21
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Move to Aussie then :)


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  Reply # 341953 15-Jun-2010 15:29
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Yeah bit of an eye opener.

Im not sure why.  Perhaps more than Vodafone officially supply the iPhone in Oz and thus they need to price sharper due to competition??

Seen as its effectively the same company in the same locale.....seems rather unfair.

Termination costs of plans in Aussie?




 


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  Reply # 341959 15-Jun-2010 15:35

kiwijunglist: I just did some calculations comparing the total cost of ownership for buying an iphone 32gb 3GS on a 24 month iphone plan.  I'm really surprised at the huge price difference between NZ and Australia, even when you account for the exchange rate.  It makes me want to move to Australia.

------------------------------------------------------------

Australian Vodafone ($79 plan)

$0 Upfront +$79 / month (24mo) = 1896 AUD = $2,340 NZD

Unlimited calls to australian vodafone mobies
Unlimited txt/pxt to national & international #s
1GB / month data

Plus

$550 credit / month to spend on the following
50c / additional MB = 1100 MB
or 120c / min phone calls (+35c flag fall) = 87 x 5 min phone calls (~435 min)

------------------------------------------------------------

New Zealand Vodafone ($40 plan)

$899 Upfront + $40 / month (24mo) = $1859

30 minutes
300 txt (National only, no PXT)
250MB / month

New Zealand Vodafone ($80 plan)

$799 Upfront + $80 / month (24mo) = $2719

120 minutes
600 txt (National only, no PXT)
250MB / month

New Zealand Vodafone ($250 plan)

$299 Upfront + $250 / month (24mo) = $6299

600 minutes
600 TXT (National only, no PXT)
1GB / Month

------------------------------------------------------------

I think the australian plan is most similar to the $250 NZ plan
So total cost: Australian plan = $2340 'vs' New Zealand plan = $6299
or per month: $97.50 'vs' $262.50

I actually prefer the Australian plan, because I can go over the 1GB of data
and it includes unlimited pxts and unlimited international txts and unlimited VF->VF calls.

------------------------------------------------------------

If you compare the two cheapest plans including the phone purchase price
Australia ($79AUD) plan = $97.50 / month
Vodafone ($40) plan = $77.50 / month

So your paying an extra $20, but you are getting about 10x more value


The downside is that you have to live in Oz:)  It is even cheaper in many other countries.

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  Reply # 341962 15-Jun-2010 15:40
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there has always been a considerable difference in poricing between oz and NZ of course, but you need to be a bit careful comparing what is obviously a promotional special price from australia with the 'normal' price in NZ.

I expect that voda Ozzy has a whole bunch of 3GS iphones they need to shift quickly before the iPhone 4 comes out. maybe Voda NZ are not in the same position.



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  Reply # 341964 15-Jun-2010 15:45
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Another comparison, this one designed to favour NZ vodafone as much as possible.

The Cheapest Australian $49 iphone plan with 32GB 3GS iphone (Which is actually very very very poor value compared to their slightly more expensive plans above at an extra $15NZ / month)

$0 Upfront + $49 / month + $18 / month (phone) = $1608AU = $1986 NZD

Unlimited VF-VF calls
50MB Data

Plus $350 Credit / month to spend on the following
- 28c / TXT = 1250 TXT
- or 75c / PXT = 466 PXT
- or 120c / min + 35c flagfall = 55 x 5 min calls (~ 275 mins)
- or 50 c / MB = 700 MB

So Australian vodafone $82.50 / month (NZD)

UNLIMITED VF-VF mobile calls
298 MB (50+248) ($124)
300 TXT ($84)
20 PXT ($15)
100 MIN (20 x 5 min calls) ($127)

or New Zealand vodafone $77.50 / month

250 MB
300 TXT
0 PXT
30 MIN

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So in summary in australia you can pay

Pay an extra $4/month for an extra 50mb, extra 20pxt , unlimted VF-VF calls + extra 70min (over the NZ plan)
or an extra $20/month for an extra 750mb, unlimited txt (NAT+INTL), unlimited pxt (NAT+INTL), unlimited VF-VF calls + extra 415 mins (over the NZ plan)




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  Reply # 341970 15-Jun-2010 16:04
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NonprayingMantis: there has always been a considerable difference in poricing between oz and NZ of course, but you need to be a bit careful comparing what is obviously a promotional special price from australia with the 'normal' price in NZ.

I expect that voda Ozzy has a whole bunch of 3GS iphones they need to shift quickly before the iPhone 4 comes out. maybe Voda NZ are not in the same position.


iphone 3GS 32GB phone only
AU Vodafone $1040 = $1285 NZD
NZ Vodafone = $1379

Not a big difference in phone price, I don't think it relates to an excess of 3GS handsets.

The savings are all related to the useage charges, i don't see why NZ has to be so much more expensive.




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  Reply # 341974 15-Jun-2010 16:13
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Another comparison the most popular NZ iphone $80 plan vs AU iphone $79 plan, taking into account the $799 upfront charge for NZ 32GB 3GS.

With AU Vodafone you save $15.80 NZD per month on total cost of ownership

And for your saving you get

Unlimited National + International TXT & PXT
Unlimited VF - VF calling
Additional 750 MB (1GB Total)
Additional 315 min of calling (435 min Total)




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  Reply # 341987 15-Jun-2010 16:29

Were you not aware that even their most basic plans rip ours?

Wait a month or two, the new plans will be better!


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  Reply # 341992 15-Jun-2010 16:34

Couple of points:

1: You're not comparing apples with apples. Those are special prices from VF Aus versus normal prices from VF NZ.

2: Our current offer includes 3GB of data and 1,000PXT a month. You've not mentioned that.

3: Unlimited isn't unlimited. It's (as has been said several times) unlimited*.

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  Reply # 341996 15-Jun-2010 16:36
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It's almost like... you know... they can spread their large fixed costs of running a nationwide mobile network over a much larger number of customers resulting in the same return on investment to shareholders while being able to offer a lower average price to consumers.





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  Reply # 342007 15-Jun-2010 16:58
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PaulBrislen: Couple of points:


3: Unlimited isn't unlimited. It's (as has been said several times) unlimited*.


Paul


 

But its certainly more than 30 minutes

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  Reply # 342011 15-Jun-2010 17:08
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Don't be silly making such comparisons.

We earn much more than the aussies so we can afford it.

Just like the denon amp I've been looking at, costs 3k here, but less then 1k in the USA.

NZ is ripoff heaven.



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  Reply # 342027 15-Jun-2010 17:56
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PaulBrislen: Couple of points:

1: You're not comparing apples with apples. Those are special prices from VF Aus versus normal prices from VF NZ.

2: Our current offer includes 3GB of data and 1,000PXT a month. You've not mentioned that.

3: Unlimited isn't unlimited. It's (as has been said several times) unlimited*.

Paul


Thanks for commenting

1. I thought I was comparing the cheapest VF NZ prices, are there cheaper specials? I couldn't find any on the website

2. I didn't mention 3GB / 1000 PXT because it is a tempoary offer (see T&C), and is scheduled to end on 01 July 2010 (ie in 15 days)

3. Unlimited for most users who arn't crazy is still unlimited (unless you are using your cellph for a baby monitor etc...), which is why they call it unlimited.




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  Reply # 342029 15-Jun-2010 18:13
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kiwijunglist:
PaulBrislen: Couple of points:

1: You're not comparing apples with apples. Those are special prices from VF Aus versus normal prices from VF NZ.

2: Our current offer includes 3GB of data and 1,000PXT a month. You've not mentioned that.

3: Unlimited isn't unlimited. It's (as has been said several times) unlimited*.

Paul


2. I didn't mention 3GB / 1000 PXT because it is a tempoary offer (see T&C), and is scheduled to end on 01 July 2010 (ie in 15 days)
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the vodafone $0 upfront is also a temporary offer, due to end  30/06/10 (i.e. in 14 days) according to the front page of their website

why include that offer and exclude the voda nz offer which has a similar time frame? (and has been running for considerablylonger than the ozzy offer)



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  Reply # 342031 15-Jun-2010 18:15
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ok, so if I include the 1000PXT / 3GB offer it actually makes very very little difference since it will only apply for the first 1 month of useage, which is why i left it out.  The included data/value cap etc, with the AUS deal applies for the entire 24months+

If the iphone was free on either the $80 or the $130 plans like in australia, I wouldn't mind the hugely lower monthly value as much.




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