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# 181119 2-Oct-2015 19:54
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Hi,
Been thinking that it might be time to go to UFB soon. We have a second computer now and if two people are watching streaming videos, etc, the lag can be noticeable on ADSL2.

If we get UFB, we wouldn't want to be paying a separate charge for the POTS land line.

From reading a few GZ articles like this one: Voip for dummies it appears you need:

ONT --> router --> ATA (such as this one on TradeMe ) --> POTS phone jack(s).

Is this all that's required? I've never used this tech before and no one I know has a Voip line. I don't need any fancy features. Just want it for making/receiving local phone calls and the odd toll call.

Cheers. smile

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  # 1399088 2-Oct-2015 19:56
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You might want to look at using a smart phone app instead of a regular phone at home. That could be the cheapest way to do it. And it would allow you to take with you your "landline" VOIP number wherever you go. 

On 4G it works really well.

I use a VOIP services in Norway for a norwegian number here in New Zealand, and have been out by the seaside here in Napier and had calls with people that thought I was in an office in Norway.. :)




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  # 1399091 2-Oct-2015 19:57
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Yes, or your ISP-supplied router might have the ATA built-in, or some ISPs (Spark?) use the ATA built into the Chorus ONT.

Edit: Also if you are connecting back into your POTS phone jacks, they will need to be physically disconnected from the incoming line.

 
 
 
 




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  # 1399094 2-Oct-2015 20:04
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Shoulda added a bit more info in my first post, sorry.

I don't have a smart phone so am only interested in keeping the home land line working, while switching it to a newer IP connection.

We'd want to keep the home phone number as it is now. Is this possible?

We are in a Chorus area to we'd be using a Chorus supplied ONT.

We're currently with Vodafone on ADSL2 (having inherited them when they purchased TelstraClear.



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  # 1399097 2-Oct-2015 20:07
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froob: Yes, or your ISP-supplied router might have the ATA built-in, or some ISPs (Spark?) use the ATA built into the Chorus ONT.

Edit: Also if you are connecting back into your POTS phone jacks, they will need to be physically disconnected from the incoming line.


Currently have a basic modem/router that was supplied with our ADSL connection. For UFB, we'd need a new router for that.

Is it best to use the POTS ports on the ONT or the ATA on a router? And what is the difference any way?

I can rewire the phone lines to connect to the router or ONT no probs. 

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I think a managed product will suit you much better. Get your broadband from who ever you want and then grab a Cisco SPA112 and sign up for a VFX line from WxC. Fully managed so you don't have to do any of the complex settings but you get all the benefits of a VoIP solution.

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  # 1399133 2-Oct-2015 21:45
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If you sign up to Orcon they will provide you with the required router/ATA combo hardware to use their Genius VoIP product.

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  # 1399472 3-Oct-2015 20:33
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Is it best to use the POTS ports on the ONT or the ATA on a router? And what is the difference any way?


I don't think there is much difference for the end user. I do remember the pros and cons being discussed in another thread. But, the option that is used will depend on which ISP / VOIP provider you go with. 

 
 
 
 




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  # 1465935 8-Jan-2016 14:39
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Bump!

Our UFB is scheduled to be installed on 1 Feb.

I missed the courier this morning who was delivering the Huawei Homehub HG659 that we'll be using.

I'm just reading the PDF user guide for this router.
http://help.vodafone.co.nz/ci/fattach/get/1301526/1395867242/redirect/1/filename/HG659_Home_Gateway_User_GuideLO.pdf

I see that you can plug an analogue phone directly into it.

I'd like to have the initial setup all up and running before migrating to Voip.

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  # 1465944 8-Jan-2016 15:05
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Don't know if it helps much, as details are a bit hazy, but we moved from Spark ADSL to MyRepublic fibre about a year ago, and the chorus guys installed the ONT and whatever near where the old phone line came into the house next to the main phone jack. They replaced that jack with another box and connected it to the ONT (along with the internet/router connection of course). Therefore we could use our existing jackpoints (3 or 4) and our old phones no problem (except it took about a week to port the existing number to MR, but if your staying with the same provider you don't have to worry about that).




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  # 1465950 8-Jan-2016 15:13
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I will say it again...

I think a managed product will suit you much better. Get your broadband from who ever you want and then grab a Cisco SPA112 and sign up for a VFX line from WxC. Fully managed so you don't have to do any of the complex settings but you get all the benefits of a VoIP solution.


Sure it will cost another $60 to buy a SPA112 but the mucking around with the Huawei will just not be worth it.

- Get an SPA
- Sign up to VFX
- Enter auto-provisioning URL
- Phone line will be working

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  # 1465954 8-Jan-2016 15:26
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When we got RBI, part of the equation to make it affordable was including the bundled phone and dumping our $60/m Telecom landline. We started out with 3G, graduated later to 4G. We kept the analogue phones and wiring. I cut the exterior feed and simply plugged the phones into the box we were provided that plugs into the router.

In the beginning there were some very minor very occasional hiccups with the phone service (ghost calls, one-way audio, poor quality) but over time the service has become steadily better, and it was never bad. Nowadays it is almost always perfect. No discernible difference in quality or use, except it doesn't go out as often as the old one did. 

Here are the differences: We now have two lines instead of just one. If one is busy the other can be used for incoming and outgoing calls. We have free voicemail (it cost $10 month with Telecom). No unlimited local calling, but the cap is high. Cheap calls to some countries overseas without the need for other services. Phone stops working if Internet (or power) goes out.
 




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  # 1465955 8-Jan-2016 15:27
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Forgot one: Our landline number was painlessly ported to the voip connection, no problem at all.





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chevrolux: I will say it again...

I think a managed product will suit you much better. Get your broadband from who ever you want and then grab a Cisco SPA112 and sign up for a VFX line from WxC. Fully managed so you don't have to do any of the complex settings but you get all the benefits of a VoIP solution.


Sure it will cost another $60 to buy a SPA112 but the mucking around with the Huawei will just not be worth it.

- Get an SPA
- Sign up to VFX
- Enter auto-provisioning URL
- Phone line will be working


How much does 'VFX' cost?

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  # 1465963 8-Jan-2016 15:37
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DarthKermit:
How much does 'VFX' cost?


$11.50 / month

https://www.wxc.co.nz/residential/voice/hostedvoice/

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  # 1465970 8-Jan-2016 15:42
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DarthKermit:

How much does 'VFX' cost?


$11.50 https://www.wxc.co.nz/residential/voice/hostedvoice/





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