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#2735361 27-Jun-2021 14:01

My PCs are all 5-8 years old (wow - has that one been 8 years??) and none of them will run Windows 11.

W10 has support for a few more years yet so no biggy I guess.

My (older) PCs were all upgraded from W7 to W10 and run W10 better than they ever ran W7 ( especially after upgrading to SSD drives).

I can't complain about not being able to upgrade to W11, but agree with the earlier comments about the new hardware requirements causing the W11 uptake to be a lot slower than the upgrades that happened when W10 became available.

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#2735395 27-Jun-2021 16:27

let me get this straight. windows 11 won't be able to be installed on old-ish PCs?

or just don't qualify for upgrade?

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#2735396 27-Jun-2021 16:42

Batman:

let me get this straight. windows 11 won't be able to be installed on old-ish PCs?

or just don't qualify for upgrade?

At this current phase. Requires TPM. And 8th gen or above. So no. Will not work on old machines.

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#2735415 27-Jun-2021 17:34

I'm very supportive of them drawing a line in the sand with hardware support. One of the reasonable criticisms that Microsoft gets is that they have supported the lowest common denominators for too long. It bloats the OS and makes update quality inconsistent given the wide range of device testing that's required. Another reasonable criticism over the life of Windows 10 was the poor QA of those updates.

I'm hoping this is the start of a much tighter, future focused Windows. My main criticism so far is just that the upgrade path for the layperson is very unclear right now.

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#2735433 27-Jun-2021 18:20

I've got 3 working computers in my house and so far 2 of them which I mostly use won't run Windows 11, wife's one I think will but yet to test the app on it.

My guess is e-waste is going to be a booming business come 2025

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#2735435 27-Jun-2021 18:22

Either that or Linux adoption is going to explode

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#2735443 27-Jun-2021 18:26

gehenna:

Either that or Linux adoption is going to explode

unlikely - i have no idea how to do that

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#2735447 27-Jun-2021 18:37

gehenna: I'm very supportive of them drawing a line in the sand with hardware support. One of the reasonable criticisms that Microsoft gets is that they have supported the lowest common denominators for too long. It bloats the OS and makes update quality inconsistent given the wide range of device testing that's required. Another reasonable criticism over the life of Windows 10 was the poor QA of those updates.

I'm hoping this is the start of a much tighter, future focused Windows. My main criticism so far is just that the upgrade path for the layperson is very unclear right now.

I'm surprised you haven't moved to Apple. Pretty much all of the above is the reason people use Windows.

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#2735448 27-Jun-2021 18:40

DjShadow:

My guess is e-waste is going to be a booming business come 2025

My guess is that, facing glacial uptake of Windows 11, the 'soft floor' for installing windows becomes DX12 graphics card for the frosty windows.

Edit: I think I mean 'hard floor'.

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#2735452 27-Jun-2021 18:47

gehenna:

Either that or Linux adoption is going to explode

Would have daily driven Linux ages ago if it wasn't for specific applications and games(Easy Anti Cheat used to work on Linux :( ). I just can't do it yet.

Can totally see people switching to macOS or not leaving Windows 10 for a very long time. Linux? Eh. Maybe if everyone knew what Ubuntu or Pop_OS! was.

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#2735456 27-Jun-2021 18:53

It's about as obvious to the lay person as a TPM chip.

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#2735459 27-Jun-2021 18:57

gehenna:

Either that or Linux adoption is going to explode

More likely Windows 10 will be like Windows XP - the zombie that just wouldn't die.

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#2735463 27-Jun-2021 19:07

There is a huge opportunity here for Apple to try to bring Windows users over the next 4 years

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#2735468 27-Jun-2021 19:15

Pity MacOS is the buggiest it's ever been at the moment... but I digress in a Windows thread!

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#2735471 27-Jun-2021 19:28

gbwelly:
I'm surprised you haven't moved to Apple. Pretty much all of the above is the reason people use Windows.

I have several Macs currently and used OS X exclusively from 2004 through 2018. But I'm not of the view that using one OS should arbitrarily restrict you from using any others.

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