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# 175011 13-Jun-2015 22:07
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Microsoft has capitulated and is removing Skype modern app from the line-up. It will be replaced with the (much more featured, easier to use and reliable) Skype desktop...






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  # 1324288 13-Jun-2015 23:23
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I hope they do away with all modern apps, they are horrible. 

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  # 1324607 14-Jun-2015 20:26
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Wow, negative much... That said, I didn't see the point of the modern Lync app either. The mobile one was good, but the modern one on desktop was pretty average. Maybe it would have been better on a surface or similar tablet.




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  # 1324609 14-Jun-2015 20:28
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  # 1324612 14-Jun-2015 20:32
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paulmilbank: Wow, negative much... That said, I didn't see the point of the modern Lync app either. The mobile one was good, but the modern one on desktop was pretty average. Maybe it would have been better on a surface or similar tablet.


I'm very positive when things are good, and negative when they aren't so much. Almost everyone who knows me would say I give credit when credit is due.

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  # 1324617 14-Jun-2015 20:52
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Modern apps are brilliant for a touchscreen - it just took until the most recent 8.1 update for them to be usable on a non touch device when they are finally dockable windows.

There are quite a few modern apps I use on my laptop (non touch) because the apps aren't available any other way.


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  # 1324618 14-Jun-2015 20:58
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Can they please get rid of the modern calculator too. It's slower to launch, slower to use, and has no advantages.

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timmmay: Can they please get rid of the modern calculator too. It's slower to launch, slower to use, and has no advantages.


It has the advantage it's usable on a touchscreen, whereas the desktop calculator isn't.

If people don't want modern UI apps the simplest solution is to simply use a start menu replacement so you've never ever exposed to them unless you go to the modern UI home screen.




 
 
 
 


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  # 1324630 14-Jun-2015 21:21
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timmmay: Can they please get rid of the modern calculator too. It's slower to launch, slower to use, and has no advantages.


It has the advantage it's usable on a touchscreen, whereas the desktop calculator isn't.

If people don't want modern UI apps the simplest solution is to simply use a start menu replacement so you've never ever exposed to them unless you go to the modern UI home screen.


But I don't have a touch screen, I have a PC, like most people. This is the problem with wanting one OS and set of programs everywhere, it's not ideal for anyone.

I use W10 so I have a start menu, I don't need a replacement. Like I've done for years I just hit start and type "calc", hit enter. I'd prefer the old one came up, but it seems to have bee

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  # 1324632 14-Jun-2015 21:23
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paulmilbank: Wow, negative much... That said, I didn't see the point of the modern Lync app either. The mobile one was good, but the modern one on desktop was pretty average. Maybe it would have been better on a surface or similar tablet.


Had the wonderful experience of trying to explain to aunt/grandparents why Skype looks different when launched from modern ui vs desktop.

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timmmay:
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timmmay: Can they please get rid of the modern calculator too. It's slower to launch, slower to use, and has no advantages.


It has the advantage it's usable on a touchscreen, whereas the desktop calculator isn't.

If people don't want modern UI apps the simplest solution is to simply use a start menu replacement so you've never ever exposed to them unless you go to the modern UI home screen.


But I don't have a touch screen, I have a PC, like most people. This is the problem with wanting one OS and set of programs everywhere, it's not ideal for anyone.



But there isn't just one set of programs. If you click on calculator from the modern UI home page you're going to get the modern UI touchscreen version. If you launch it from the desktop you'll get the old classic UI.

The problem is Windows8 just made the whole mix between both far too confusing. 8.1 and the 8.1 update improved on this greatly, but it's really taken Win 10 to fix the issues.



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sbiddle:
timmmay:
sbiddle:
timmmay: Can they please get rid of the modern calculator too. It's slower to launch, slower to use, and has no advantages.


It has the advantage it's usable on a touchscreen, whereas the desktop calculator isn't.

If people don't want modern UI apps the simplest solution is to simply use a start menu replacement so you've never ever exposed to them unless you go to the modern UI home screen.


But I don't have a touch screen, I have a PC, like most people. This is the problem with wanting one OS and set of programs everywhere, it's not ideal for anyone.



But there isn't just one set of programs. If you click on calculator from the modern UI home page you're going to get the modern UI touchscreen version. If you launch it from the desktop you'll get the old classic UI.

The problem is Windows8 just made the whole mix between both far too confusing. 8.1 and the 8.1 update improved on this greatly, but it's really taken Win 10 to fix the issues.


Agreed, it is confusing.  There are also severe limitations with Win 8.1 apps compared to the full-blown desktop versions e.g. Facebook.  I expect this to improve over time, but for now Win 8.1 is a strange dichotomy between touch-enabled and traditional apps.

Having recently bought a Surface, I can absolutely see the point in touch-enabled apps.  MS is on the right track at last, but it's going to take a while for the wrinkles to be ironed out, and I for one won't be touching Win 10 for quite a few months yet.  I've seen the latest preview version in action and it's extremely slow booting up compared to Win 7, and a whole lot of stuff is still broken.





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sbiddle: But there isn't just one set of programs. If you click on calculator from the modern UI home page you're going to get the modern UI touchscreen version. If you launch it from the desktop you'll get the old classic UI.

The problem is Windows8 just made the whole mix between both far too confusing. 8.1 and the 8.1 update improved on this greatly, but it's really taken Win 10 to fix the issues.


Interesting, but that's not my experience. I don't even see the modern UI, I just see a standard desktop and start menu, like Windows 7. I just hit start, type calc, hit enter, and I get the slow modern app instead of the fast old app.

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paulmilbank: Wow, negative much... That said, I didn't see the point of the modern Lync app either. The mobile one was good, but the modern one on desktop was pretty average. Maybe it would have been better on a surface or similar tablet.


Had the wonderful experience of trying to explain to aunt/grandparents why Skype looks different when launched from modern ui vs desktop.


absolutely, and hence this problem will now go away

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sbiddle: But there isn't just one set of programs. If you click on calculator from the modern UI home page you're going to get the modern UI touchscreen version. If you launch it from the desktop you'll get the old classic UI.

The problem is Windows8 just made the whole mix between both far too confusing. 8.1 and the 8.1 update improved on this greatly, but it's really taken Win 10 to fix the issues.


Interesting, but that's not my experience. I don't even see the modern UI, I just see a standard desktop and start menu, like Windows 7. I just hit start, type calc, hit enter, and I get the slow modern app instead of the fast old app.


afaik the old calc app is gone, just like control panel (settings) and other parts of the system.  The first build I had it in, it was very slow to start.  Its been getting better and better each build.  Remember it is still a technical preview ;)




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  # 1325139 15-Jun-2015 16:11
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If the time it took modern apps to launch was fixed it would be much nicer to use,

Perhaps they should get rid of the splash screens

As long as they make good modern apps that work well on both mouse and keyboard + touchscreens there's no reason to make win32 apps anymore

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